MU-2 Missing near Bahama's

[topgun260]

MU-2 Missing near Bahama's. Oil slick and debris found.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...-with-couple-2-boys-missing-near-bahamas.html

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

Heartbreaking.

That looks like a plane that you could suck the gear up and ditch on the water safely.

 

[Zeldman]

Yes, heartbreaking.

 

[denverpilot]

Sucks.

 

[topgun260]

Debris found confirmed to be from an MU-2B.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/16/us/bahamas-missing-plane/

 

[old cfi]

It's bad enough when adults lose their lives in this way but when two small children are also taken that lost is felt for generations. Sometimes it brings to an end a family line. Condolences to all.

 

[Tantalum]

Do we have any idea what may have happened yet? I saw a headline said "plane missing over Bermuda Triangle" <- I hate how the media has to sensationalize everything

 

[Anthony]

When I lived in Colorado two went down in the span of a relatively short time in 2005, if memory serves. Both were based at my airport, and operated from a hangar across from mine. I believe that's where the SFAR requirement came from.

 

[Tantalum]

I always thought MU2s were a cool little twin engine plane, and always thought the spoiler only roll control was unique. I've heard they can be a serious handful during single engine ops though. Curious if that turns out to be the cause here

 

[Everskyward]

When I lived in Colorado two went down in the span of a relatively short time in 2005, if memory serves. Both were based at my airport, and operated from a hangar across from mine. I believe that's where the SFAR requirement came from.

Yes, there was a certain congressperson who pushed for it. The one whose district included Centennial Airport. Actually he wanted to ban the airplane, but the SFAR was a compromise.

 

[Fearless Tower]

I've heard they can be a serious handful during single engine ops though. Curious if that turns out to be the cause here

For pilots who have only had traditional multi-engine training, they can be death traps on a single engine, but the SFAR significantly reduced the accident rate in the US.

There has been a lot more in depth discussion over on BeechTalk. My insurance broker also handled the accident airplane I believe. The pilot was a well respected BeechTalk member and had all the training.

Whatever happened, occurred in cruise at FL 240. What complicates this is they were in an area of spotty primary radar coverage.

 

[SkyDog58]

Yes, there was a certain congressperson who pushed for it. The one whose district included Centennial Airport. Actually he wanted to ban the airplane, but the SFAR was a compromise.

Tancredo always had a few bricks missing from his load.

 

[Fearless Tower]

Yes, there was a certain congressperson who pushed for it. The one whose district included Centennial Airport. Actually he wanted to ban the airplane, but the SFAR was a compromise.

The SFAR came from a comparison study that looked at the MU-2 accident rate in the US vs Europe. The aircraft had a horrible accident rate here, but nothing unusual in other countries. The key was in Europe, you had to have a actual type rating to fly it.

So the SFAR was developed to bring US training for the aircraft up to the same level.

 

[Sac Arrow]

I have seen no updates. I don't expect good. Of course I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Everskyward]

The SFAR came from a comparison study that looked at the MU-2 accident rate in the US vs Europe. The aircraft had a horrible accident rate here, but nothing unusual in other countries. The key was in Europe, you had to have a actual type rating to fly it.

So the SFAR was developed to bring US training for the aircraft up to the same level.

That may have been true in the end, but there was definitely a certain individual who was pushing to ban the airplane after two fatal accidents within a short period of time at the same airport.

 

[denverpilot]

Yes, there was a certain congressperson who pushed for it. The one whose district included Centennial Airport. Actually he wanted to ban the airplane, but the SFAR was a compromise.

Yeah, didn't one of them go into the rich neighborhood north of the airport? Donors to his campaign?

Tancredo always had a few bricks missing from his load.

Populist. Total populist. Very calculating one, too. Not sure he was crazy or stupid, just a typical populist. Ride a Harley, impress fellow Boomers.

 

[Kritchlow]

Interested to see the outcome here. I have very minimal time in the airplane (and zero SE experience), so I hope to see the final report.

 

[denverpilot]

Interested to see the outcome here. I have very minimal time in the airplane (and zero SE experience), so I hope to see the final report.

You think the report will say much considering the lack of well, pretty much anything but an oil slick in international waters, with limited radar coverage? Honest question. I don't think it'll amount to much.

 

[old cfi]

According to today's news the search has been suspended. Considering the area it went down, doubt if NTSB will ever get their hands on it. So that leaves theories. Fuel starvation probably not an issue. No emergency broadcast of problems to ATC. Possible hypoxia but would think plane would have flown further. It had only been in the air 2-3 hrs when it went off radar. If mechanical issue, think turn closer to shore would show on radar. They only have a couple small pieces and not sure if that's enough to show on-board explosion or fire. Afraid this one may go unsolved unless the Navy happens to find it some day. Look how long it took to find Air France. And there's still a 777 missing.