mid air & BRS deployment video clip

I hate to be an armchair pilot where these two are concerned but the airplanes didn't look too badly damaged. I wonder if they could have been landed safely anyway. And what's with part of a wing suddenly falling off the Cirrus? Chilling video either way.
 
Richard O said:
I hate to be an armchair pilot where these two are concerned but the airplanes didn't look too badly damaged. I wonder if they could have been landed safely anyway. And what's with part of a wing suddenly falling off the Cirrus? Chilling video either way.
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Richard:

If I'm recalling the correct incident, that Cirrus incident occurred near me. Plane had come out of maintenance and an aileron or ailerons weren't properly attached. He lost control of at least one--the wing didn't fall off. He was able to keep his speed up, get over an uninhabited area and pull the chute.

Maybe he could have maintained control, gotten to a long runway and landed at high speed--maybe. But the closest airports with long runways, would have been in more heavily populated areas.

Best,

Dave
 
alaskaflyer said:
Wonder what happened to the glider pilot
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I don't think he hit the glider.

If the glider was still attached to the rope it most likely just flew back and was probably feeling pretty lucky. It's also entirely possible that the glider had already released from the rope or released when it saw the collision.
 
jesse said:
I don't think he hit the glider.

If the glider was still attached to the rope it most likely just flew back and was probably feeling pretty lucky. It's also entirely possible that the glider had already released from the rope or released when it saw the collision.
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This one was over on the recreation.aviation.soaring newsgroup a while back. The general consensus seemed to be that the glider had released and the ultralight pilot was a moron.
 
tonycondon said:
This one was over on the recreation.aviation.soaring newsgroup a while back. The general consensus seemed to be that the glider had released and the ultralight pilot was a moron.
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Hmm - I don't see how the ultralight pilot was a moron in this case, the angle that the towplane was coming from would have been near impossible to see from the left seat until it was too late.

I would, instead, blame the towplane pilot, as he was climbing right at the ultralight.

But the most important thing is that you will never, ever see 100% of traffic out there, and presumably why an accident like this could happen. You'll see the towplane pilot banking and climbing sharply away. It appears he saw him too late....

Armchairing here, but wouldn't a diving right turn have been a better solution for the towplane, rather than a climbing right turn right in front of the ultralight?
 
Actually towing aircraft have the right of way, as do aircraft approaching from your right. But it is hard to see planes climbing from below you.
 
SkyHog said:
Hmm - I don't see how the ultralight pilot was a moron in this case, the angle that the towplane was coming from would have been near impossible to see from the left seat until it was too late.

I would, instead, blame the towplane pilot, as he was climbing right at the ultralight.

But the most important thing is that you will never, ever see 100% of traffic out there, and presumably why an accident like this could happen. You'll see the towplane pilot banking and climbing sharply away. It appears he saw him too late....

Armchairing here, but wouldn't a diving right turn have been a better solution for the towplane, rather than a climbing right turn right in front of the ultralight?
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Hindsight is 20/20. Of course now I cant find the thread over there. But most of the people thought he was a moron for pulling the chute when it was simply an engine failure. You must remember that it is a forum of glider pilots who view engine failures as SOP.

alaskaflyer said:
Actually towing aircraft have the right of way, as do aircraft approaching from your right. But it is hard to see planes climbing from below you.
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3 valid points are made in this reply.
 
oh and now I am remembering more. It seems after more investigation, it turns out the guy was videotaping another ultralight that he was flying formation with. You can see it in the beginning of the clip. His attention was obviously focused on that and not on watching for traffic.
 
If ailerons are falling off airplanes, I'd want a parachute system too... good thing I don't fly a Cirrus.
 
heck i saw a guy at Oshkosh with a taylorcraft. his right aileron fell off right after takeoff, but it didnt stop him. he did a bunch of low level aerobatics. the announcer said he wasnt even a pilot! then he threw the instruciton manual out the window and drug a wingtip in the grass. then he made a pretty good landing and taxied back to the square on the main wheels only. i bet the FAA had some talking to do with him when he got done...
 
tonycondon said:
Hindsight is 20/20. Of course now I cant find the thread over there. But most of the people thought he was a moron for pulling the chute when it was simply an engine failure. You must remember that it is a forum of glider pilots who view engine failures as SOP.



3 valid points are made in this reply.
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Thanks. Also...I believe that the SOP for every aircraft fitted for a BRS parachute is to deploy in case of engine failure (or in this case engine stoppage in lieu of what would no doubt be impending catastrophic engine or prop failure) if other criteria such as altitude above ground, etc. is present.

Collision with a cable with unknown structural damage? I'd probably deploy.
 
tonycondon said:
heck i saw a guy at Oshkosh with a taylorcraft. his right aileron fell off right after takeoff, but it didnt stop him. he did a bunch of low level aerobatics. the announcer said he wasnt even a pilot! then he threw the instruciton manual out the window and drug a wingtip in the grass. then he made a pretty good landing and taxied back to the square on the main wheels only. i bet the FAA had some talking to do with him when he got done...
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