Maybe there is hope for AOPA (re: landing fees)?

[wsquare]

AOPA seeks ADS-B protections

AOPA asked the acting FAA administrator to halt the use of ADS-B data for purposes beyond the intended airspace safety enhancement.

www.aopa.org

 

[Roller]

After they pushed for everyone to accept ADSB lol

How people didn’t see that ADSB was going to be used and abused for fees and enforcement is beyond me

 

[dans2992]

Can the FAA just “declare it so”? Wouldn’t this require legislation?

From a practical perspective, it would need encryption to be effective, but that’s problematic for other reasons.

 

[Roller]

Can the FAA just “declare it so”? Wouldn’t this require legislation?

From a practical perspective, it would need encryption to be effective, but that’s problematic for other reasons.

Encrypting it would defeat the point

This isn’t a flaw in the system it’s a feature

 

[Kevin Eggert]

After they pushed for everyone to accept ADSB lol

How people didn’t see that ADSB was going to be used and abused for fees and enforcement is beyond me

I don't think very many people were blind to this at all. Unfortunately, it was the ones who didn't care that were responsible for making it mandatory.

 

[brien23]

Local airport use "Vector Airport Systems" ADS-B to send $20. landing fee bill. They also have a camera on the runway to get N number so they will still bill you for landing without ADS-B.

 

[Roller]

Local airport use "Vector Airport Systems" ADS-B to send $20. landing fee bill. They also have a camera on the runway to get N number so they will still bill you for landing without ADS-B.

I heard from a friend, if you have the vintage small N numbers and no ADSB you won’t get their junk mail

 

[frfly172]

With all good things comes a government enforced rule being abused by greedy people

 

[M20K]

Local airport use "Vector Airport Systems" ADS-B to send $20. landing fee bill. They also have a camera on the runway to get N number so they will still bill you for landing without ADS-B.

Airport I flew out of collected $2.50 Landing Fees for decades. They had Operations people watching the runways all day. And if you came in at night back in the day when you just said "Mooney of Downwind" they'd actually drive out to the ramp if they couldn't see your numbers. So landing fees and people monitoring you is nothing new.

As for the camera, that's actually your best friend if you or anyone else does Practice Approaches at that airport. If they send you a bill for a low approach and the altimeter is changing and ADS-B thinks you actually landed. Then just ask them for a photo of you on the runway. That will get a quick deletion of the incorrect billing the system kicked out.

And I'm curious, who's charging $20 Landing Fees? One of the tourist spots or a big Airport? Big Apt is going to get you regardless of the technology.