Maximizing College for flight training... Advice?

Larry in TN said:
Tell that to the hundreds, if not thousands, of R-ATP holders who got a job, and a seniority number, with one.

Once all unrestricted ATP requirements are met, the airline can issue an unrestricted ATP during recurrent training. It is an administrative process, without any new tests or check rides.
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A seniority number at a stepping stone regional?

How many RATPs are the big boys hiring, last I heard the average new hire DAL guy had like 4-5k tt

I know zero doing the flying I do, as a RATP can’t even fly internationally
 
Larry in TN said:
Where my view differs is in the recommendation to have a degree in something else as a backup. A STEM, accounting, business, etc. degree will get you an entry level job when you leave school and hit the job market. Ten or twenty years later, at best, it'll get you the entry level job, where your co-workers are a decade or two younger and more current on the subject matter. In reality, your training will be out of date and much will have faded from your memory. You will have to put significant effort into relearning and updating your knowledge to compete for those entry-level jobs.
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Yeah, so this was a reality that hit me during COVID.

I have a degree in Computer Science*, and even did some professional programming for a game development studio while in college and a few years after graduation. My code is in several shipping titles for the PC, Mac, and even (dating myself here) the Playstation 2. I mention this only to say that in addition to the degree, I also had a portfolio of work to point to. Anyway when COVID hit, I got scared for my airline job and immediately started shaking down friends in the tech world. And it was just like Larry said - the CS degree might have got me glanced at, but a portfolio of a C/C++ code and a little MIPS assembly from the turn of the century? I might as well tell the Google recruiter that I'm well versed in COBOL.

So the only offers were entry level, and while appreciated, didn't even scratch the surface of what I was financially accustomed to. I was fortunate that my wife and I were saving for a house and thus had a big war chest - if I did end up on the street it would have given me a couple of years to make the pivot without radically having to adjust our lifestyle. But it was an eye opener, that's for sure.


* I also have a degree in Physics, and while it's good for getting me a little nerd cred, as a backup to my aviation career it likely ranks up there with a degree in Sanskrit. ;)
 
Roller said:
A seniority number at a stepping stone regional?
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Yes, which will mean have the seniority, and 1,000 hours part 121 time, to upgrade sooner which means building turbine PIC sooner, and reaching a Major sooner.

kayoh190 said:
I also have a degree in Physics, and while it's good for getting me a little nerd cred, as a backup to my aviation career it likely ranks up there with a degree in Sanskrit.
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Well, a couple of days ago, they had a CONVERSATIONAL ESPERANTO category on Jeopardy! so that Sanskrit but not be quite as useless as an outdated Physics degree.
 
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Larry in TN said:
Yes, which will mean have the seniority, and 1,000 hours part 121 time, to upgrade sooner which means building turbine PIC sooner, and reaching a Major sooner.


Well, a couple of days ago, they had a CONVERSATIONAL ESPERANTO category on Jeopardy! so that Sanskrit but not be quite as useless as an outdated Physics degree.
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Once you hit 1000tt it’s not to hard to get a turbine PIC job and time builds fast
 
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