Maule verses Maule... what would you pick if you were me?

No input on the airplanes you are looking at, but I got the chance to stop by the factory a couple of weeks ago. Great folks. They always take the time to show you around when you drop by.
 

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Tell that to my wife and my insurance agent


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Tell her that your friends on the internet think that its girly to buy a Maule with a nosewheel. Like a minivan with lift-kit.
 
Might as well just get a Cessna 150 and with the money left over get your balls permanently sewed into your wife's purse.
 
The 91 has a lower time engine and new-ish fabric. One radio? The price diff will make up for another radio and ADSB install?
Nice planes. Why not look at 182s if you want a nosewheel?
 
Neither. I'd get the 235 and conventional gear. Youll get laughed at if you show up with a Maule with the wrong gear.

And as mentioned above, the 182 would give you way more useful load.

Having said that however, I also really like the looks of a (tailwheel) Maule.

But if I HAVE to answer the original question, I like the one with the dual 430's.
 
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Are ether of them going to be PICing the plane?

The m7 is a sweet bird, and outfitted with good sized tires a very safe plane which you can land nearly anywhere for fun or in a pinch, nose wheel takes that away.

It's like buying a off-road package truck with a lift, but no 4wd
 
There's an age component to the 182...and frankly they just don't have the character that a Maule does.

I'm leaning towards the 94. The lack of any second nav/com on the 91 is a turn off, despite the low time, new fabric...etc...

As far as the tailwheel goes, I'm at peace with that decision... honestly, with a wife who is still new to flying and a 5 year old and potentially another down the road, I feel a little more comfortable with the tri-gear. Sure it looks like a caravan and a tripacer had an ugly love child, but hey, it takes off in 300' and stalls at 40mph


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And yes, the plan is for the Mrs to start working on her ticket at some point.


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Woah that's weird looking lol.
 
I'd never buy a Maule. Look around. You see lots of old Pipers and Cessnas. You almost never see an old Maule. The Yugo of general aviation.

I'm kidding. Sort of. A good friend has a Maule. He's good in it. He keeps his Cessna around, though. The part that I'd never buy a Maule is true.
 
Had a student who bought a Maule after he passed his PP check, MX5 maybe, late 80s I think. Flew over to the factory and the company demo/test pilot (Dan somebody?) took us up. Coming in to land he was on final with the stall light illuminated, forget the speed but it was low, touched down and I swear we rolled maybe 100' and came to a stop. Impressive as heck. As mentioned, the tour is fun and the folks are very nice. Worth a stop and visit. Then head east to Douglas and check out the XP-82 restoration going on.
 
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You are aware of the hangar requirement for a fabric covered airplane - right ? Just for giggles how much do you guess that it costs to replace the fabric on a Maule ?
 
You are aware of the hangar requirement for a fabric covered airplane - right ? Just for giggles how much do you guess that it costs to replace the fabric on a Maule ?

Yes and about $20k

In Central CA, hangars are a requirement and thankfully cheap!


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I like giggles. Since the Maule wings and tailfeathers are metal, less than it costs to cover a Cub?
 
There's different wing shapes and lengths for Maules, right? I imagine both of these M7s have the same wing.
 
Either of those are fine and are reasonably priced. Others have talked about the difference.

Do you need a hangar? No. From a purely economic basis it makes more sense to leave the Maule on the ramp in the sun and cold and have the fabric wear out a bit sooner (and, it's worth noting, not a lot sooner). The hangar costs will massively outweigh the fabric costs unless you have a $75/mo hangar like mine. There are plenty of other good reasons to have a hangar, but the economics of saving the fabric, as someone else brought up, simply aren't there.

Insurance is more expensive on conventional gear for sure, but if that's a big part of the decision then make sure you shop. My final bill ended up being less than a third of my initial quote. You hinted at a concern about safety. Remember that even if you manage to ground loop the thing, you'll be going slowly and the odds of injuring people is pretty low. Your ego will be pretty wrecked is all.

Now that said, don't worry about the person who said you will be laughed at. Us Maule guys like Maules, even if they are trikes.

The main thing I would advise you to consider is the engine. You are looking at two planes with 180hp engines. If you look around you'll see that they go for a discount and that there are far fewer 235HP planes on the market. Let that be a lesson to you. There is a reason the 235 is the most sought after model. The engine power to weight is a nice sweet spot. There are more 180hp on the used market because people too often buy them, like the type and then want to upgrade to a 235.

Most importantly, once you join the club make sure you come to the roundup we do every year in Texas and at the factory in Georgia.

 
After flying both, I am definitely aware of the difference. There is an economic benefit to where I'm going with this and a tri-gear 235 is a unicorn....especially in the age range I'm looking at.

Of course I could just be doing this until my wife gets really hooked at which point I replace it with a conventional 235..... on ABW 29's


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Even the fixed pitch 180 is quite impressive compared to my Socata and most Cessna's I've flown in that range


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I'd buy the one that has the best compression numbers. If it was a really good rebuild it would be that one. Unless you like the avionics in one over the other.
 
Alaska has harsh weather but it also has a very low UV index. UV is what kills fabric airplanes more than most other weather factors.

Covering a Maule should run about $10K even in the expensive Alaskan market. It should
be less down south.
 
the 800 hour one and a hangar if kept inside no uv and cover will last a lifetime
 
If I were you, I'd get look into the ACA line of aircraft, specifically the Scout or Denali. Not sure how much $$ you're working with, but if you're looking for an off road machine in the same performance category. "Scout".
 
A maule with a nose wheel completely defeats the reason for buying it in the first place! I've been around airports a long time , never seen one. Have you ever seen a super cub with a nose wheel?. And don't think leaving it outside doesn't diminish its resale value . Regardless of metal wings, they go downhill quickly. But.....it seems you are determined so why bother posting!?
 
When I first started looking to buy, I visted Moultrie and got the tour from BD's son (can't remember his first name). What an experience. After looking hard at what was then the introduction of the nose wheel, they freely admitted it was all marketing to get sales numbers up. At the time, having a fresh tailwheel sign off (J3), couldn't imaging why for the mission specific as that plane was/is, would someone want a nose wheel. The only (read 'main') reason why I didn't go with an M7-235, was the getting in and out of the A/C and having to straddle the strut. No way would I convince my wife to 'work it' with our then tottler, and one in diapers back in the day. But talk about a performer... man, would that plane jump off of the ground... and land on a postage stamp. :)
 
If I were you, I'd get look into the ACA line of aircraft, specifically the Scout or Denali. Not sure how much $$ you're working with, but if you're looking for an off road machine in the same performance category. "Scout".

85k and under and need four seats.... not major bush flying--just a 2000' dirt strip at one of my dad's ranches and some camping like the High Sierra Fly-In... nothing my former Tampico couldn't technically do, I just want a slow stall speed, a reasonable IFR platform with a basic A/P and something that's fun to fly.

Preferably something newer than me...I'm an '84 model.


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85k and under and need four seats.... not major bush flying--just a 2000' dirt strip at one of my dad's ranches and some camping like the High Sierra Fly-In... nothing my former Tampico couldn't technically do, I just want a slow stall speed, a reasonable IFR platform with a basic A/P and something that's fun to fly.

Around 2009-2010 I got pretty close to buying a 2003 M7-180. It had something like 250hrs, was bright yellow and had a GNS430. Iirc it finally sold for 98k and was shippd to the netherlands. It took a long time to sell, and part of the issue was the performance (the other possibility is the disastrous used aircraft market at the time). 4 seats with 180hp doesn't scream 'High Sierra'. The 180 seems to be approved to carry a bit more than it can realistically carry. Probably great for a couple and bulky but light outdoor gear.

Maybe two years ago, someone here was selling a M7-235 and that looks to be a more appropriate engine if you are thinking about mountain operations.
 
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I agree with the others.

If you cant fly tailwheel, Id get light weight a 182 with a STOL kit and a big engine
 
Alaska has harsh weather but it also has a very low UV index. UV is what kills fabric airplanes more than most other weather factors.

Covering a Maule should run about $10K even in the expensive Alaskan market. It should
be less down south.

Sun doesn't compromise the UV protective layer on the fabric, it just wears the paint out cosmetically. Sun doesn't strip the UV protectant.

Would love for you to let us know which shops would recover/paint a Maule for under $10K. Or maybe you're thinking of prices 30 years ago?
 
Sun doesn't compromise the UV protective layer on the fabric, it just wears the paint out cosmetically. Sun doesn't strip the UV protectant.
How would it not?
 
UV protectant? You mean the silver? Any scratch, rock chip, hole from bushes, vibration crack, etc compromises the silver and then the sun destroys the fabric. For you new guys who've seen fabric planes with silver paint stripes and patches and didn't understand what you were seeing? That's where the fabric and/or paint has been repaired and silver applied to restore the UV protection. And as for the price? I have a pretty good handle on what it costs to cover a plane as I'm in the middle of covering my new Cub. Wasn't that long ago I paid to cover the last Cub. Ceconite with white dope and red Imron trim on an airframe that was prepped and ready to cover- $14K. By one of the top Cub builders around these parts. That included wings and tail feathers. The current Cub is using Stits and Aerothane with two trim colors. It'd be a little more than the last one but not much. But this thread is about a guy looking at a Maule. Focus.
 
If you pay $350/month for a T-hangar vs. $75 for a tiedown every year you leave the plane outside adds $3,300 to your paint and recovering fund. After ten years thats 33k before interest (and 40k at 4%). Unless you want to go all Trumpist and cover the plane with gold leaf, you should still get ahead financially.
Maules come from the factory with rather rough paint jobs, nothing wrong with a cheap re-spray if you dont like how it looks.
 
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