Looking for KML File with 3D presentation of KLAX

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Does anybody have a link to a KML or KMZ file that will accurately display a 3D presentation of the LAX bravo space in Google Earth?

Or if none for LAX, a 3D presentation of any other airspace?

I find a 2D presentation here and there, but no 3D versions.

Thanks!

Joe
 
register@teamandras.com said:
Does anybody have a link to a KML or KMZ file that will accurately display a 3D presentation of the LAX bravo space in Google Earth?

Or if none for LAX, a 3D presentation of any other airspace?

I find a 2D presentation here and there, but no 3D versions.

Thanks!

Joe
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You can go to the USGS website at www.usgs.gov and see if there's anything interesting there. Ah, wait...those are DEM files and you need to convert to KML.

Another resource is the EPA at
http://www.epa.gov/envirofw/html/frs_demo/geospatial_data/geo_data_regions.html

A number of the California universities have KML files for the state.

Next option - AGI's STK software. It was used by the local university to build the 3D map of KDEN airspace and illustrate the proposed Spaceport launch regimes. They used the Google maps KML file and overlaid the Class B and other routes. The downside - you can only get the 2D version for free, the 3D version of STK costs mucho bucks. But....if any of the universities in the area have a license you may be able to work with them on this very useful teaching tool. Contact me offlist and I'll send you contact information for a couple incredibly talented soon-to-be-graduates that will happily develop this map for you (for a small fee, of course).

Next - contact the state Division of Aeronautics or whatever it's called in California and see if they have the map.
 
Watching this thread as I'd love to see the result. I work there :)
 
Mike I said:
Here's a screengrab from a KML I've had. Not sure about its accuracy though.

Download here:
http://www.lloydbailey.net/airspace.html
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That site is very cool. It seems pretty accurate, but who knows. At any rate, I played around with it and created a much smaller KMZ file that only contains the Class B, C, and D airspace here in Southern California, i.e. the LAX bravo, the five Charlie's, a bunch of deltas, and the restricted space over Camp Pendleton. Here's a link that you can save and then open or, depending on your browser, may open up directly in Google Earth:

Southern California Airspace

It's interesting how much "flatter" the airspace looks compared with the mental cartoons we think about.

I fixed some of the airspace that goes together like puzzle pieces (e.g. Long Beach, Los Alamitos, and Fullerton).

I also changed the colors a bit so that the different types of airspace have different colors, and so that the bigger spaces are lighter colors and a little more transparent. It looks like the JPG below.

If you twirl the folders open inside of Google Earth, you can selectively turn off the bravo, or the charlies, to more clearly see the airspace beneath them.

I'm not sure what's going on with the interface between LAX and Santa Monica. Have to figure that out later. I think I'm done for now.

Joe

SoCal_Airspace.jpg
 
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I turned off the B and C layers, can't see the D for HHR
 
LOL, no worries. Only reason I noticed is that was last Saturdays exercise in the Tobago. Out of TOA, avoid the Class D for HHR until I'd made contact, then out of HHR to TOA via the coast avoiding it's D until contact. Combination of visual reference (Alondra park) and first time using my iPad in the cockpit.
 
Old Fart said:
LOL, no worries. Only reason I noticed is that was last Saturdays exercise in the Tobago. Out of TOA, avoid the Class D for HHR until I'd made contact, then out of HHR to TOA via the coast avoiding it's D until contact. Combination of visual reference (Alondra park) and first time using my iPad in the cockpit.
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Added Hawthorne. It looks like there's a little overlap error with Torrance, but it's pretty close:

Southern California Airspace
 
A bit of error - but still pretty cool. I think I might make a jpg of the Class D and use it for wallpaper :)
 
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