KJVL 2/2/08 - Midwest Get-together

Tony and I officially scrubbed the trip for today. :(

There's a chance he'll make it there tomorrow.

Fly safely,

Matthew
 
smigaldi said:
There is a ramp area near the Runway 26 approach end. On the south side of the ram, opposite the fuel pumps, is NIFC. I'll wait in there. What tail number will you have?
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My usual - the arrow N3904X
 
Well, bummer. Dad was looking for somewhere to go today, so we were gonna bop up there in the RV. Of course any time we plan something, the weather goes FUBAR.

Oh well... If I can talk Rachel into calling in sick to work tomorrow, maybe we'll actually *gasp* rent a plane and head up that way. ;)
 
OK.. Since this has 'officially' been moved to Sunday, what does the attendance list look like now?


1. Chris, Tony (working on Rachel & Leah) C-182RG N5274S
2. Barry, Scott PA28-181 N3904X
3. Greg, ?Sharon? Caravan (Dodge, not Cessna) XXX-XXX
4. Scott (drizz) ?+1? C-152
5. Stan (nddons)
6. Grant, Leslie C-210
7. ?Lance? + ?Jesse?
 
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CJones said:
OK.. Since this has 'officially' been moved to Sunday, what does the attendance list look like now?


1. Chris, Tony (working on Rachel & Leah) C-182RG N5274S
2. Barry, Scott PA28-181 N3904X
3. Greg, ?Sharon? Caravan (Dodge, not Cessna) XXX-XXX
4. Scott (drizz) ?+1? C-152
5. Stan (nddons)
6. Grant, Leslie C-182
7. ?Lance? + ?Jesse?
8. Pete N8483F or VW depending on the WX
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They didn't have a chance to check the static system on the 210, so if we fly it'll be in the 182. However, it's not looking much (if any better) for tomorrow, either. :
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METAR KRFD 18:41Z 02/02/08
KRFD 021841Z 16009KT 3SM -SN BR OVC006
M03/M05 A2998 RMK AO2 P0000

TAF ROCKFORD, IL
KRFD 021736Z 021818 16012KT 3SM -SN BR OVC008
TEMPO 1820 1SM -SN BR OVC005
FM2000 17009KT 5SM BR BKN010
FM0100 22005KT 6SM BR OVC012
FM0800 28004KT 4SM BR OVC012=


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METAR KMSN 18:08Z 02/02/08
KMSN 021808Z 16004KT 3/4SM -SN BR SCT005
OVC012 M03/M04 A2997 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1 P0001

TAF MADISON, WI
KMSN 021728Z 021818 18010KT 1/2SM -SN FG OVC004
TEMPO 1821 1 1/2SM -SN BR OVC008
FM2100 22008KT 3SM -SN BR OVC010
FM0000 25005KT 4SM -SN BR OVC015
FM0400 28003KT 5SM BR OVC015=


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METAR KMKE 17:52Z 02/02/08
KMKE 021752Z 16006KT 6SM -SN OVC012 M02/M05
A3001 RMK AO2 SNB32 SLP173 933004 4/006 8/5//
P0000 60000 T10221050 11022 21033 58015

TAF MILWAUKEE, WI
KMKE 021728Z 021818 18008KT 6SM BR OVC012
FM1900 18010KT 4SM -SN BR OVC008
FM2000 18010KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR OVC006
TEMPO 2022 3SM -SN BR OVC008
FM0000 23007KT 4SM -SN BR OVC010
FM0400 27006KT 5SM BR OVC015=


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TAF CHICAGO/DUPAGE, IL
KDPA 021756Z 021818 16010KT 3SM BR OVC006
FM2000 17009KT 4SM BR BKN010
FM0100 22005KT 5SM BR OVC012
FM0800 28004KT 3SM BR OVC012=

These are comparable for what they were forecasting for today, and this is what we have now at Janesville:
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METAR KJVL 17:45Z 02/02/08
KJVL 021745Z 16012KT 3SM BR OVC004 M02/M03 A2999

and pireps for the area are showing icing.

It's definitely good that we called the flying for today! :yes:
 
i guess we'll just have to see in the morning.
 
I'm guessing that we'll be driving at this point. Scott/Barry, if you want we can pick you up on the way up and the 4 of us can do the SUV. More gas efficient that way, too!
 
gprellwitz said:
I'm guessing that we'll be driving at this point. Scott/Barry, if you want we can pick you up on the way up and the 4 of us can do the SUV. More gas efficient that way, too!
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Well right now, the only problem seems to be visibility - they're calling for ground fog at DPA at 9:00am - not sure when its disipating. Ceilings look okay. I'll check again later and then tomorrow morning as well.

To be honest Grant, if I have to drive I'll probably stay home with my wife for breakfast. It just takes so much longer.
 
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bstratt said:
Well right now, the only problem seems to be visibility - they're calling for ground fog at DPA at 9:00am - not sure when its disipating. Ceilings look okay. I'll check again later and then tomorrow morning as well.

To be honest Grant, if I have to drive I'll probably stay home with my wife for breakfast. It just takes so much longer.
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I can understand that. Since I instigated this thing though, I think I'll plan on doing the drive if it's not flyable. Scott, if you want us to pick you up and Barry opts not to fly, let me know and we can make arrangements to meet and carpool. You have my cell, and I just left you a VM. Since Barry's not going, if someone else in the area wants a ride, drop me a PM.
 
gprellwitz said:
Since Barry's not going, if someone else in the area wants a ride, drop me a PM.
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To clear up a potential misunderstanding, I said I wouldn't go if I have to drive. Still haven't scrubbed the idea of flying though.
 
gprellwitz said:
I can understand that. Since I instigated this thing though, I think I'll plan on doing the drive if it's not flyable. Scott, if you want us to pick you up and Barry opts not to fly, let me know and we can make arrangements to meet and carpool. You have my cell, and I just left you a VM. Since Barry's not going, if someone else in the area wants a ride, drop me a PM.
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It's a long drive for youse two. It's an hour or less for me.

See what you started?

BTW, IT'S STUPID BOWL SUNDAY!

Not that I care, other than I'd like to see the Pats set a record that will never be touched again.
 
foka4 said:
Oh, the irony. As luck would have it, I need to be in Waukesha first thing Monday morning for work, and the best the airlines could do is a Sunday afternoon departure (from DSM). It would be pretty tough for me to make it to Janesville on Sunday and still get home in time to fly back in a CRJ (Arguably the only aircraft with less cabin space than a 140. Ironically, I probably log more hours in CRJ cabins than in my 140.).
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Matt,

Why not fly the 140 to JVL on Sunday, and just continue to UES afterwards? (assuming the wx doesn't suck) There's no airline service closer than MKE, and if ya gotta leave Sunday anyway, ya might as well do it in tail-draggin' style! :yes:

For what it's worth, I'm in for Sunday if the weather doesn't suck. It is supposed to be cloudy, but "over 12,000" at JVL according to USAirNet while the TAF's for MSN and RFD are a different story. Hmmm.
 
Just spoke to Grant. If it is a no fly I am still in and would be willing to drive. I can carpool with Mike if you are interested.

Barry what time would you cancel the flight if it needs to be done?
 
bstratt said:
To clear up a potential misunderstanding, I said I wouldn't go if I have to drive. Still haven't scrubbed the idea of flying though.
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You're right, I should have said "not going in the car". I'm still hoping you can fly up tomorrow.
 
smigaldi said:
Barry what time would you cancel the flight if it needs to be done?
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Well, if I'm going to get you around 9:00am I would usually be off for the airport about 7:45/8:00 - I suppose if its fog I could delay to see about the burn off. Don't want to screw up your lift by waiting though - Grant, what time would you be leaving if you were driving?

I would suggest that if I'm still not in a position to confirm I'm flying by the time Grant leaves that you may want to hook up with him. If I get there later I could always give you a flight back.
 
bstratt said:
Well, if I'm going to get you around 9:00am I would usually be off for the airport about 7:45/8:00 - I suppose if its fog I could delay to see about the burn off. Don't want to screw up your lift by waiting though - Grant, what time would you be leaving if you were driving?

I would suggest that if I'm still not in a position to confirm I'm flying by the time Grant leaves that you may want to hook up with him. If I get there later I could always give you a flight back.
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If we drive, Leslie and I will be leaving around 7:30, and expect to be at Janesville between 9:30 and 10:00. We'll be doing I88 to I39. Scott and I talked and, if he drives, he'll go directly there, maybe with Mike. If anyone else from the western suburbs wants to ride with us, let me know. We'll make the call around 0700 whether we fly or drive.
 
The forecast for 9:00am says fog. Not sure how long it will last. At the moment I'd suggest y'all drive. I'll see if I can get there.
 
bstratt said:
The forecast for 9:00am says fog. Not sure how long it will last. At the moment I'd suggest y'all drive. I'll see if I can get there.
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The USAirNet forecast does, but the TAF doesn't. Still a tossup, though I'm afraid it's a two-headed coin! :)
 
If the airport is VFR, I'll be there. From the forcasts, my guess is about 10:00am. Citabria N614AC.

Buzz
 
1. Chris, Tony (working on Rachel & Leah) C-182RG N5274S
2. Barry, Scott PA28-181 N3904X
3. Greg, ?Sharon? Caravan (Dodge, not Cessna) XXX-XXX
4. Scott (drizz) ?+1? C-152
5. Stan (nddons)
6. Grant, Leslie C-182 N5279V
7. ?Lance? + ?Jesse?
8. Pete N8483F or VW depending on the WX
9. Buzz Citabria N614AC

I don't expect anyone to actually fly from IA, however.
 
Grant
We will be there via Honda Odyssey about 10:30 or a bit after.
 
lancefisher said:
Jesse, can you get up here? I think I can go Sunday.
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I appreciate the offer Lance. I won't be able to make it up there though. I'm trying to save for my instrument.
 
Weather permitting, ApacheBob will be at JVL at 10 am. Cherokee 140...N1477X. We have to leave just after noon. Hope to see you there.
We have room for one in the back seat. We will be departing ARR at 9:15 am.:blueplane:
10. ApacheBob and Steve A.
 
Cool. Looks like it'll be quite a turnout. We'll make the fly/drive decision around 7:00AM.
 
the icing potential for 6 AM is nil for iowa, northern illinois, and most of wisconsin for all altitudes. Dont be surprised if 4 Iowans show up in a 182RG. Will check here between 7 and 8 to make sure that there will be others there to eat with.
 
shoot its practically going to be VFR!

KRFD 030307Z 030324 27006KT 6SM HZ OVC012
TEMPO 0812 3SM BR
FM1200 VRB03KT P6SM BKN025
FM1800 14005KT P6SM SCT060

KMSN 022348Z 030024 23005KT 6SM BR OVC015
FM0400 VRB04KT 5SM BR OVC015
FM1500 11006KT 6SM HZ BKN025
 
Damn, it looks like it's getting worse. On the good side, I should be able to be on time if I fly my Ford.

Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS)

Output produced by TAFs form (0607 UTC 03 February 2008)
found at http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/tafs/index.php

KMSN 030528Z 030606 27004KT 5SM BR OVC015
FM1000 VRB04KT 2SM BR OVC009
FM1600 11006KT 6SM HZ SCT015 BKN200
FM0000 12008KT P6SM SCT040 BKN080

KRFD 030533Z 030606 28006KT 6SM HZ OVC011
TEMPO 0711 3SM BR OVC009
FM1200 VRB03KT P6SM BKN025
FM1800 14005KT P6SM SCT060
FM0000 09010KT P6SM OVC040

KMKE 030528Z 030606 26007KT 6SM HZ SCT008 OVC015
FM1200 27004KT 3SM BR OVC009
FM1600 15005KT 5SM BR OVC015
FM1900 14007KT 6SM HZ BKN025
FM2200 14008KT P6SM SCT030 BKN080
 
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Not so good

KDPA 031200Z 33003KT 2 1/2SM BR OVC004 M03/M05 A3019 RMK AO2=
KDPA 031152Z 32005KT 3SM BR OVC004 M03/M05 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP232
T10331050 11017 21033 53010=
KDPA 031052Z 00000KT 3SM BR OVC006 M03/M05 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP228
T10331050=
KDPA 030952Z 24004KT 4SM BR OVC006 M03/M05 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP224
T10331050=
 
Scott, you gonna drive? Wanna hook up? PM me.

I'm planning to drive. Can I bring Pancho? :no:
 
Looks like I'll scrub guys - they just updated the TAF at DPA - ceilings 400-600 ft until 10:00am, then up to 1,000, visibility 2-3 miles in mist.

Weather doesn't actually improve until after noon.
 
KAMW 031314Z AUTO 14008KT 1/4SM FZFG VV001 M04/M05 A3010 RMK AO2

have fun!
 
Heading to the airport, but it doesn't look good.
 
tonycondon said:
KAMW 031314Z AUTO 14008KT 1/4SM FZFG VV001 M04/M05 A3010 RMK AO2

have fun!
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But wait, tony.. It gets better later in the morning! We could still make it!!

7am (13Z)-9am CST (15Z)temporarily visibility 3/4 mile, mist, 200 feet overcast

:no::no::no::no:

Bummer... Ya'll have fun up there! See ya' next time..
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Actually, it's getting better. MSN's 0024 TAF showed BKN025, while the 0606 TAF shows SCT015 BKN200.

I'll be there in N271G. :yes:
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Looking better in MSN maybe, but not down here. I'm trying to convince myself to fly it. Because of that, we'll be flying the Acura. I am NOT going to get myself caught in get-there-itis, especially when I haven't done any serious flying in months!

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TAF CHICAGO/DUPAGE, IL
KDPA 031237Z 031312 VRB02KT 3SM BR OVC006
TEMPO 1316 2SM BR OVC004
FM1600 VRB03KT 4SM BR OVC010
FM1800 14006KT P6SM BKN015 BKN100
 FM2300 10008KT P6SM BKN012 OVC080
FM0100 10010KT 5SM BR OVC010 PROB30 0104 4SM -SN
FM0400 11009KT 3SM -RASN OVC007
TEMPO 0407 2SM -FZRA
FM0700 12010KT 2SM -RA BR OVC005=


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METAR KRFD 11:54Z 02/03/08
KRFD 031154Z 00000KT 4SM HZ OVC008 M03/M06
A3021 RMK AO2 SLP239 4/005 T10331061 11028 21033


TAF ROCKFORD, IL
KRFD 031133Z 031212 VRB02KT 4SM HZ OVC008
FM1500 VRB03KT 4SM BR OVC012
FM1800 14006KT P6SM BKN015 BKN100
 FM2300 10007KT P6SM BKN012 OVC080
FM0100 09008KT 5SM BR OVC010 PROB30 0104 4SM -SN
FM0400 11009KT 3SM -RASN OVC007
TEMPO 0407 2SM -FZRA
FM0700 12010KT 2SM -RA BR OVC005=
 
I am going to have to back out. Sharon can't get a sub for her Sunday School class. Maybe next time.
 
So we're looking at Mike, Scott, Leslie, me, Stan, Buzz? ApacheBob & Steve (probably not), Kent, Kate?, Pete. Others?

We're about to start up the Acura, and should be there 10:00ish.
 
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