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I went to KDSM (Des Moines) last night to meet up with a friend. It was a pretty uneventful flight on the way there and was able to get flight following for the entire flight. This was my first experiance with a class C airport.

The controllers were extremely nice and told me to enter a base for runway 23. Well this would have been easy. If I could see the airport / runway. One thing I've noticed about larger airports is they always have their runway lights extremely low which works great for all their IFR flights that are coming in. But VFR it's very difficult to see it until final. I was about 4 miles out and still wasn't exactly positive about the airports location I knew I was looking at the beacon but didn't see any runways. I then asked them to turn the lights up and boom there the runway was.

I landed and requested progressive taxi to Elliot Aviation and they were happy to help me with that. When I taxed up to Elliot Aviation there was two line guys out there but the one guy just stood there. I continuted to taxi towards him and he finally just pointed to an area. I was guessing there is where he wanted me to go. I park there and look at the line guy to see him giving the "this guy is an idiot" sign to the other line guy. I shutdown and he comes up and told me he didn't want me here. I asked him why he didn't use the approriate hand signals and he looked at me like I was nuts. I of course knew at this point he was just an *******. The other line guy walked over and they both just stood by my prop. I was gathering my stuff for 5 minutes or so they and they continuted to just stare at something. At this point I thought something was wrong so I ask them if there is something I should know about, they said no. I then went inside and looked out the window and they continued to stare at my prop / nosewheel. Not sure what they were so amazed over.

Later that night I came back and took the girl I flew there to meet up for just basically a sight seeing type deal. As I climbed out of the airport it was extremely rough and turbulent so I was trying to get out of that ASAP as it was her first time in a small plane. Approach was nice about letting us fly around wherever we wanted.

When I came back to land as soon as I got to about 1000 AGL it was back to the turbulent windy air. I lined up on final approach and was having a hell of a time on the approach . I was of course making sure she was aware this was OK. I came in over the runway and got the plane to about 5 feet above the runway. For the *FIRST* time ever, I did a go around. I could not get this thing to where I thought it was a good idea to let it touch down. I then just said it was no big deal, we'll just make another shot at the landing.

I then turned to final again and ran into the same crap. Was all over the place. Tower told me that the winds aloft at 1,000 feet they were told was about 50 knots. I think a lot of that was rolling off all the buildings that surround the airport. I then decided if it didn't work this time we were just going to have to fly somewhere else which I didn't really want to do because I'd have to somehow get her home.

This time though with the rudder to the floor and tons of aileron I was able to get it to where it was safe to let it touchdown.

I then dropped her off and departed back to Rochester it was about 4am by now. The flight back to Rochester was uneventful and the winds were typical in rochester. About 15 knots, but none of the insane winds aloft and windshear. I made very good time back to rochester and had a ground speed of about 190 knots in the Sierra.

I have a few pictures but most of them were just her blasting away with the camera.

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Here is where I was trying to show her how to go straight and level:
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the sierra
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Time: 3.8 hours, but there was quite a bit of sightseeing in there... Which puts me at 110 hours, and eating ramen noodles for at least a month.
 
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jangell said:
I went to KDSM (Des Moines) last night to meet up with a friend. It was a pretty uneventful flight on the way there and was able to get flight following for the entire flight. This was my first experiance with a class C airport.

Not bad, Jesse. I got to the part where you were having trouble seeing the runway thinking "he should ask the tower to turn up the lights" and darn it you didn't do just that.

It also speaks well of your attitude that you were willing to suffer the "embarassment" of admiting you weren't comfortable with the landing and to abort it. A lot of pilots come to grief because they're not willing to accept that a landing isn't working out.
 
~50KT at 1000 gets ones attention doesn't it ?
What was the general wind direction/crosswind component ?
 
jangell said:
I have a few pictures but most of them were just her blasting away with the camera.

Am I understanding something wrong here :D, Doesn't look like "she" took any of these, but I certainly understand.

Dave
 
Dave Siciliano said:
Am I understanding something wrong here :D, Doesn't look like "she" took any of these, but I certainly understand.

Dave

I took three pictures, two of them outside the plane and one where she was flying.

The rest she took. Apperantly she wanted to get one for her livejournal or myspace or something.

All the pictures are at:
http://jesseangell.com/main.php/v/Dani/

lancefisher said:
It also speaks well of your attitude that you were willing to suffer the "embarassment" of admiting you weren't comfortable with the landing and to abort it. A lot of pilots come to grief because they're not willing to accept that a landing isn't working out.
Yeap. The way I look at it . If someone is trusting me to take them up in an airplane when they don't know anything about them, I'm not going to let them down. Plus the airplane isn't mine, infact it's worth more then I'll probably make in the next five years, I'm going to bring it back the same way it was when I left. Except if something fails, then the rules change, safety over saving the plane. On another note, I really don't feel like getting killed either.
 
Jesse,
I heard you when you were coming into des moines initially. We were in a 172 headed for ames from marshalltown. Good job all around!

Tony Condon II
Commercial ASEL, AMEL, IA, Glider
CFI All of above
 
tonycondon said:
Jesse,
I heard you when you were coming into des moines initially. We were in a 172 headed for ames from marshalltown. Good job all around!

Tony Condon II
Commercial ASEL, AMEL, IA, Glider
CFI All of above

Yeah approach kept calling me a Sundowner.

I did do a touch and go in Ames when we were just exploring around. The wind there wasn't pretty much non existant.
 
jangell said:
Yeah approach kept calling me a Sundowner.

I did do a touch and go in Ames when we were just exploring around. The wind there wasn't pretty much non existant.

Didn't I hear that Ames had a tornado today?
 
lancefisher said:
Didn't I hear that Ames had a tornado today?

I'd beleive it. I think it was all coming from the south. It just felt extremely unstable. The pressure was 29.72 or something like that.
 
Yes, we had several tornadoes pass through the area about 5:30 last night. One hit the northwest side of town. Several others touched down north of town. Weather has been pretty wild around here today. As jesse mentioned, there was killer winds aloft and shear about 1000 AGL on friday night, yesterday afternoon i was out flying and the wind at 3000 was 45 knots or something. We were having fun trying to do NDB holds! Then tornadoes, today surface winds are gusting to 35 knots or more.

Tony
Commercial ASEL, AMEL, IA, Glider
CFI All of the above
 
Jesse, looking at these pics reminds me of yet another reason why I wish I'd gotten my license while I was still young and vigorous.

Jesse got to fly with a purdy girl!
 
SCCutler said:
Jesse got to fly with a purdy girl!

haha damn right.. and something tells me it won't be the last one.
 
Nice airplane...cute girl....bad winds. 2 of 3 isn't bad and with the smarts to know when to "go around", you're in good shape!

* wonders if this'll start a "my passenger's cuter than yours" thread *
 
TDKendall said:
* wonders if this'll start a "my passenger's cuter than yours" thread *

Could have some fun with that.
 
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