iPad vs. Nexus 7

JB1842 said:
I got a Nexu 7 a few weeks ago. The only aviation app I have so far is F-18 Fighters. Fun! If I can pry it from my wife's fingers, I plan on posting here with it someday. I'm saving on downloading the 30 day free Garmin Pilot and Naviator for when I start my training to upgrade to Private, so I can see what works best for me before I buy.
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I bought them both -- Naviator "seems" to be a bit smoother, but Pilot seems to have more function and has more updates. Naviator has a record route feature that I really like, though. It's was cool to see my checkride on Google Maps.
 
alaskaflyer said:
I have the x-grip and the iPad slips in bumps or vibration. Not far, but unattended it would eventually fall. I went back to the spring loaded clamp. Even that in significant turbulence might launch your tablet somewhere you don't want it though I haven't experienced that yet. They only recommend the locking one for "high vibration."
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Thanks! I went ahead and ordered the X-grip and will try it out on my next flight. You can't go wrong for $55.
 
On the issue of mounts, I bought this cheapie off Amazon and just got it in today. i was initially concerned that it would not hold the Nexus 7 in portrait, but it grips it pretty tight. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but for about $15.00, it looks pretty good. I refused to pay 60-70 for a simple RAM mount for the Nexus 7.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004M8ST36/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
 
Jay Honeck said:
No, I can read a spec sheet. In every measurable way, the Nexus 7 is superior to the iPad Mini.
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While I agree that regular Ipad could be to big, 7 inch is definitely is too small for me. Also at the time I own Android tablet there were few aviation apps available.

I'm really big fun of ForeFlight since Ipad2. I did give a shot for several apps including WingX, Garmin, and others. Foreflight wins my heart every time :lol:

Now I own Ipad 4th generation (along with 2nd and 3rd which I donated to my relatives) :) Despite it's shortcomings I use it for bookkeeping, flight logging/training/planning..I have great apps to show visual examples for my students (VOR tracking, E6B and so on). I even use Aerofly FS to show some maneuvers right on the spot...
 
alaskaflyer said:
Well then, you may note that the N7 is heavier, thicker, lacks a high res camera, and tops out at 50% of the maximum available RAM of the Mini. But maybe those aren't "measurable" on a spec sheet? ;)

Rumors that it had an older GPS chipset were found to be false after the ifixit tear down, it is the same as the iPad.

I don't care, I'm chiefly attached to the iPad because I'm attached to the iOS ecosystem, and because I like Foreflight, but let's not exaggerate. I also REALLY appreciate 64Gb of storage when I'm traveling in areas where access to my media on the cloud is really slow. I'm slightly embarrassed to admit that I wouldn't go back to 32GB.
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I've got 16 GB, and after five months of daily use I currently have 9 GB available. It's not like a PC where you store everything on disk.

As for the Nexus 7 camera, I use it all the time for Google+ hangouts. How high res do you need to video conference? (And please don't tell me that you're one of those guys who walks around trying to take real pix with a tablet! :) )

Thicker/heavier!? The Nexus 7 has a satisfying heft to it that certainly isn't heavy. It has never occurred to me that lighter would be better. I mean, we're talking ounces and grams here.

Bottom line: What everyone wants (and cares about) in a tablet is screen resolution, battery life, processor speed, and price. The Nexus 7 blows the Mini iPad away in ALL of those parameters.
 
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roddie said:
Hmm... I didn't realize they were so portable. Which of these would you suggest? The X-grip seems to be the cheapest at Sporty's.
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Yep, I've got the X-Grip combined with a yoke (not suction) mount. It works great with the N7.
 
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Jay Honeck said:
I've got 16 GB, and after five months of daily use I currently have 9 GB available. It's not like a PC where you store everything on disk.

As for the Nexus 7 camera, I use it all the time for Google+ hangouts. How high res do you need to video conference? (And please don't tell me that you're one of those guys who walks around trying to take real pix with a tablet! :) )

Thicker/heavier!? The Nexus 7 has a satisfying heft to it that certainly isn't heavy. It has never occurred to me that lighter would be better. I mean, we're talking ounces and grams here.

Bottom line: What everyone wants (and cares about) in a tablet is screen resolution, battery life, processor speed, and price. The Nexus 7 blows the Mini iPad away in ALL of those parameters.
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That it satisfies all of your personal parameters is much different than exaggerating that it is superior to the mini in every measurable way, which in a number of objective measures isn't true.

The lack of a 64GB model is a deal killer for many. The lack of a high res camera on the back so that parents (as an example) can video their kids then use the tablet to edit the video instead of using their phone or a separate camera, or a rear facing view for Skyping kids to the grandparents would be an annoyance for some. Few have ever complained that a tablet is too thin ;) Satisfying heft? :rofl:
 
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Jay Honeck said:
Bottom line: What everyone wants (and cares about) in a tablet is screen resolution, battery life, processor speed, and price. The Nexus 7 blows the Mini iPad away in ALL of those parameters.
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Since I personally don't care about screen resolution or processor speed, I suppose I could say nobody else cares either and be just as correct as you.:rofl:

OTOH, I suppose I could say is what everyone wants (and cares about) is a device that is connected seamlessly to their other devices, has Apps that are vetted and not just posted in a store, and has ForeFlight. The iPad blows away the Nexus 7 in ALL those parameters.:D

I think you like the Nexus 7 and so do I but I don't feel the need to use hyperbole or proselytize.;)

Cheers
 
X3 Skier said:
I think you like the Nexus 7 and so do I but I don't feel the need to use hyperbole or proselytize.;)

Cheers
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I think some feel the need to proselytize the alternatives to balance out all the over-the-top Apple heads. Unfortunately the Apple heads are usually the ones who bring the juice ;)
 
So, what is the difference between the Nexus 7 and other android tablets that may be 7" that keeps the Nexus 7 as the preference?

David
 
sdflyer said:
I have great apps to show visual examples for my students (VOR tracking, E6B and so on). I even use Aerofly FS to show some maneuvers right on the spot...
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What apps do you use as a CFI?

David
 
flhrci said:
So, what is the difference between the Nexus 7 and other android tablets that may be 7" that keeps the Nexus 7 as the preference?

David
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Probably the GPS, mainly. Some of the others either don't have it or only include it with a 4G version.
 
Matthew said:
Probably the GPS, mainly. Some of the others either don't have it or only include it with a 4G version.
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Thanks.

I was just looking at the Samsung Galaxy 2 Tab 7 on Staples website and the spec sheet says it has a GPS. $199

Looks like bloatware may be a difference also.

David
 
I do like the narrow 16:9 aspect ratio of the 7 and I hope Apple moves that direction with iPads like they did with the iPhone.
 
Matthew said:
Probably the GPS, mainly. Some of the others either don't have it or only include it with a 4G version.
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That was the biggest reason why I didn't go iPad (plus the price difference). I really wanted to be able to use Foreflight, but since we're already an Android family (four phones and another tablet), getting the N7 was an easy decision when I compared "Apples" to Apple.

Processor speed is nice, but not as relevant on a tab as storage space (IMHO). I'm up to 2GB free on my N7, but I've got a bunch of Garmin Pilot stuff downloaded that I don't need, plus a few King Schools DVDs that I ripped and put on.

Weight/thickness is close enough to be a wash. Camera, ehh.. I have a million cameras, the resolution on the N7 isn't awful enough.

It really came down to price and GPS availability (which are related, since you need the 3G/4G model of iPad to get GPS), along with the 7".

I do say this as a pure Android guy, though -- I REALLY wish I could use Foreflight, and if money wasn't an issue, I'd probably get the iPad just for that.
 
flhrci said:
What apps do you use as a CFI?

David
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As for teaching? I think one is called RadioNav. I use it to teach VOR navigation. Another is E6B with actually simulated dials. I used to have one app for airspaces, but it become payware subscription based so I uninstalled it.
 
Garmin Pilot update for Android. One of the main features is the addition of a panel page.
 
flhrci said:
So, what is the difference between the Nexus 7 and other android tablets that may be 7" that keeps the Nexus 7 as the preference?

David
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The biggest thing with the Nexus 7 is that it is Google's "pure" version of the tablet, without other manufacturers or carriers adding or changing things.
It s the standard that everyone develops to, and any hardware or software that will work with/on any android device will work on/with the Nexus.

Some versions of android devices have funky software or hardware that creates conflicts, or they get orphaned and no further updates/upgrades come out. The Nexus will be the first to get anything, and if there's a mount/holder/accessory for an android tablet, it will be available for the Nexus.
 
Marauder said:
With all the widgets?
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Wow...lots of nice little tidbits in this upgrade. Well done, Garmin!

I now have the split screen setup and automatic appearance of the SafeTaxi diagrams. This should be good.
 
LDJones said:
Wow...lots of nice little tidbits in this upgrade. Well done, Garmin!

I now have the split screen setup and automatic appearance of the SafeTaxi diagrams. This should be good.
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Can you post this? My picture was from my iPad. I'm looking at the Nexus but I don't want to lose my Garmin features.
 
Here is what the Garmin SafeTaxi looks like on an iPad in landscape and portrait mode. What does it look like on the Nexus?

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Woot! Split nav screen, track up, and several other cool tweaks!

Thank you, Garmin! The app is now EVERYTHING Mary and I wanted.
 
Jay Honeck said:
Woot! Split nav screen, track up, and several other cool tweaks!

Thank you, Garmin! The app is now EVERYTHING Mary and I wanted.
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You Nexus guys are killing me! Can you post some pictures? Or is that something a Nexus can't do?
 
I agree, after this last update garmin has finally put almost every feature I wanted into it. Works great and love the configurable split screen.
 
merlin3 said:
I agree, after this last update garmin has finally put almost every feature I wanted into it. Works great and love the configurable split screen.
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No pictures! I don't believe you :) didn't happen ;)
 
Happy : )
 

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Now just give me a little extended runway line love and I'll be a happy camper.
 
NP, haven't flown with the new update yet but can't wait. Really need to pick up a yoke mount for this thing.
 
merlin3 said:
NP, haven't flown with the new update yet but can't wait. Really need to pick up a yoke mount for this thing.
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I'm not happy with the full sized iPad. Just too big for my airplane. Thanks for posting the pix. Post an update after your flight.
 
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