iPad vs avionics

SixPapaCharlie

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Climbing out this evening, Requested FF and just as she was responding, the suction mount in the iPad unsucked which totally sucked.

Ipad falls down landing on that little switch area on the dash turning most of them off.

I am glad we have steam gauges on the left.
Takes a couple minutes for the garmins and avidyne to boot back up.

One thing to note is the radio function works even if they have not finished booting. I was able to talk to her at least.

Probably good to keep stuff that could potentially fall out of the direct to path of any switches.
 
Had that happen to an instrument student in his early steam gauge SR22, but with a Garmin portable. Took him a while to sort everything out, but it was a good learning experience.

We found a plastic box the right size (from wax earplugs IIRC) and mounted it as a cover to guard the BAT and ALT switches. Later models came with a guard.

You can make it out here:

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Had a suction cup fail and turn my master off mid flight...that was fun.
 
Reason #603 why my iPad just lays in my lap of the right seat.
 
I is also why I have a Mini with my iPad3. 10 miles out of Erie PA in a cold December day, my iPad turned off for overheating. I purchased the mini the next day. My mini is mounted via a suction mount on the side window with the iPad mounted on the yoke. When my autopilot failed with a -9 on an approach (back windows cracked), the iPads stayed mounted.
 
Shawn said:
My suction cup failure was actually my water bottle holder...not an ipad.

...then again you probably believe real pilots don't need no stinkin hydration!
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Walboy said:
iPads shut off at the worst possible time in AZ heat. I suspect it happens in other hot places as well. It was the deciding factor for me to display ADS-B traffic/wx on a panel device. That and stories of people dropping or misplacing iPads at inopportune times.

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I have never seen or heard of any Garmin hand held device shutting down due to over heating. I have had my GPS196 for 11 years and it has never once failed me.
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That's why for solid aviation use, I would get a 796.
 
Shawn said:
My suction cup failure was actually my water bottle holder...not an ipad.

...then again you probably believe real pilots don't need no stinkin hydration!
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I definitely believe in hydration, but I have never had a suction cup holder for my drink, actually, have never ever seen one.:dunno:
 
I have my iPad mini on a suction cup mount on the left window as well. It does fall off every once in a while upon reaching the high teens but has never done anything other than hit my thigh. I just re-suction it and go on. I did notice that on my new plane there is no switch guard like there was on my G2 SR22. I guess that when they jammed in all the extra switches for FIKI deicing stuff they decided to skip the switch guard. But I think I have the iPad mounted far back enough that when it falls, it doesnt get anywhere near the switches.

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My iPad mini has overheated almost every flight. It's been in direct sun on my lap. I carry an iPad 2 that I can pull out when that happens. Wish they didn't overheat. Now I understand why they won't anytime soon be approved for primary navigation, etc. The first time it quit was at a really inopportune time near the L.A. Class B. I do love seeing all the traffic on there.
 
RudyP said:
I have my iPad mini on a suction cup mount on the left window as well. It does fall off every once in a while upon reaching the high teens but has never done anything other than hit my thigh. I just re-suction it and go on. I did notice that on my new plane there is no switch guard like there was on my G2 SR22. I guess that when they jammed in all the extra switches for FIKI deicing stuff they decided to skip the switch guard. But I think I have the iPad mounted far back enough that when it falls, it doesnt get anywhere near the switches.

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You really run that sr22 hard? Reminds me of rental power settings.
 
I thought you were going to post that the ipad does 95% of what your panel gps does for 5% of the cost!
 
FlyingMonkey said:
My iPad mini has overheated almost every flight. It's been in direct sun on my lap. I carry an iPad 2 that I can pull out when that happens. Wish they didn't overheat. Now I understand why they won't anytime soon be approved for primary navigation, etc. The first time it quit was at a really inopportune time near the L.A. Class B. I do love seeing all the traffic on there.
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I've got the mini retina and never had it overheat, have you tried closing all other apps, they are hard to read in direct sun
 
I have the air mounted to my side window,usually no problem,also have a 496 on the windscreen. Have the strAtus on a suction mount on the pax side window. If your worried re mount the suction mount each trip.
 
Mike5250 said:
You really run that sr22 hard? Reminds me of rental power settings.
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That's top of a LOP climb and before pulling back rpms to 2500- that just happened to be the only decent pic I had of the switches.

You can see the speed isn't fully accelerated either. I generally run it at 29", 2500rpm and ~16.5 gph. Well within the parameters of the poh which allow for up to 17.5gph. At my settings at 17K it will do about 201-203 TAS
 
Boy, you guys are tough on the iPad. I've logged over 200 hours with it, IFR training, IFR checkride, and regular x-country flying with it and have only had 2 issues with it:

1: Right after the iOS upgrade to 8.0 there were compatibility issues with ForeFlight and it crashed during an approach. A fix came out within a week.

2: On a flight to Florida the Stratus 1 that I use overheated in the dash. I turned it sideways and cooled off the cabin and it was back in a couple of minutes.

Otherwise, completely rock solid. I mount my iPad on my yoke using a RAM mount. I almost never fly without it, and do not feel the need to carry paper charts.

I have never had luck with suction cups in anything I use them on. They suck.
 
I love the iPad and foreflight.
I just don't like it trying to shut the plane down for me on climb out ;)
 
RudyP said:
I have my iPad mini on a suction cup mount on the left window as well. It does fall off every once in a while upon reaching the high teens but has never done anything other than hit my thigh. I just re-suction it and go on. I did notice that on my new plane there is no switch guard like there was on my G2 SR22. I guess that when they jammed in all the extra switches for FIKI deicing stuff they decided to skip the switch guard. But I think I have the iPad mounted far back enough that when it falls, it doesnt get anywhere near the switches.

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I cannot believe that Garmin didn't use a QUERTY keyboard. :nonod:
 
Yeah, what a pain in the a$s. Why do they insist on making life more difficult for people?!?!
 
My $1.00 Velcro strap mounting solution, which y'all made fun of me for, has yet to fail me even once.
 
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