iOS 7 preview

So its basically exactly the same, but looks slightly different.

Fantastic!
 
I'm running the beta now on my iphone 5. it's kinda cool.. Siri crashes my phone, and text messages don't scroll right.. Beta sw for the win
 
Thankfully a couple of my iThingies can't use it. ;)

Not that I wont get bugged by the Apple system to "upgrade".

Cheers
 
Still a smaller screen than the S4.
I am conflicted, i have the iPhone 4, and iPad.
I'm am seriously considering the S4, but not sure about the aviation apps. I use Foreflight on iPad and iPhone as backup.
 
If you ask me he new icon looks pretty ugly. I'd say since Jobs passed away apple is rolling downhill ...


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sdflyer said:
If you ask me he new icon looks pretty ugly. I'd say since Jobs passed away apple is rolling downhill ...


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Especially with the new cylindrical Mac they showed off. Might be "innovative" but stupid and going to be way overpriced.

David
 
DaytonaLynn said:
Still a smaller screen than the S4.
I am conflicted, i have the iPhone 4, and iPad.
I'm am seriously considering the S4, but not sure about the aviation apps. I use Foreflight on iPad and iPhone as backup.
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I am confused. Why would you expect a new operating system version to change the size of your screen?
 
Apple users are a bit odd. From what I've read, the new OS resulted mainly from pressure just to change something because nothing had been changed for a while, which I find a bit odd. If you have something that seems to work very well, by all accounts, why change it just for the sake of change?

-Rich
 
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RJM62 said:
Apple users are a bit odd. From what I've read, the new OSt resulted mainly from pressure just to change something because nothing had been changed for a while, which I find a bit odd. If you have something that seems to work very well, by all accounts, why change it just for the sake of change?

-Rich
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It isn't just Apple users, but the industry as a whole expects Apple to continue to crank out sea-change innovations and blockbuster products. That's a tall order for any company. Apple has made incremental improvements to iOS since the original iPhone in 2007, and they've really only needed incremental improvements because the first attempt was really, really good. Now, just as with automobiles, folks expect an "all new design" on something that is still really, really good.

Although I have no hands-on experience with iOS 7, based on the press coverage and the information that Apple has released, it appears that they're changing the "body panels" and leaving the core system mostly intact. Quite frankly, in my opinion, some of the "body panels" needed to be changed, because they were over-the-top hideous to begin with (the calendar and contacts apps come to mind.)


JKG
 
JGoodish said:
It isn't just Apple users, but the industry as a whole expects Apple to continue to crank out sea-change innovations and blockbuster products. That's a tall order for any company. Apple has made incremental improvements to iOS since the original iPhone in 2007, and they've really only needed incremental improvements because the first attempt was really, really good. Now, just as with automobiles, folks expect an "all new design" on something that is still really, really good.

Although I have no hands-on experience with iOS 7, based on the press coverage and the information that Apple has released, it appears that they're changing the "body panels" and leaving the core system mostly intact. Quite frankly, in my opinion, some of the "body panels" needed to be changed, because they were over-the-top hideous to begin with (the calendar and contacts apps come to mind.)


JKG
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I guess I'm the odd guy out. I like when a system works well and the vendor leaves it that way. I guess I'm just a Luddite.

-Rich
 
Looks a lot like Windows phone/Windows 8. They took some functionality from it as well.
 
Saw it today on a co-workers phone. Looked like someone had brought in Fisher-Price and designed the color scheme to both match Windows 8 (because that interface is working out so well for them... ha) and also keep the attention of a toddler.

I like the black tower machine, but I'm an old enough Apple geek to know that design is just a return of the Apple Cube. The chimney heat removal thing is tried and true, but was not popular with the world that loved boring beige metal boxes, last time around.

Making the Airport and the Time Capsule huge is a mistake. Especially on the Time Capsule, since it will make folks realize they could just buy a Drobo or any other enormous space-easting external storage device.
 
RJM62 said:
I guess I'm the odd guy out. I like when a system works well and the vendor leaves it that way. I guess I'm just a Luddite.

-Rich
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If it works, don't fix it. Wish it were more true.

Change for the sake of change like the "new" iOS is just matching of today's standard attention span which appears to be measured in seconds.

Cheers
 
I'm guessing the vertical sizing of the Airport is mostly driven by trying to get effective antenna design with the ability to beam form. It has 6 antennas that can be phased to beam a stronger signal. This is not new and is in several other 802.11ax routers but is a new feature for most of them so the Airport may be very competitive.

The one iOS feature I am looking forward to is the swipe up to get settings. I miss the quick access to airplane mode I had on my jailbroken phone.

The Win 8 tile look is currently very influential and skewomorphism (sp?) is out of favor. I'll reserve judgement but generally I like a 3D look.
 
RJM62 said:
I guess I'm the odd guy out. I like when a system works well and the vendor leaves it that way. I guess I'm just a Luddite.

-Rich
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I don't know that Apple is changing the way iOS works, but your observation certainly describes the risk in doing so. It could get better, but it could also get worse.

I like when I find a reliable product that works well and the manufacturer leaves it that way, but that almost never happens, inside or outside of technology. There is constant pressure from consumers, competitors, industries, governments, etc. to change, especially for technology companies. Apple has built an enterprise on keeping things simple and easy to use, but they're also where they are today because of their risk-taking with innovation. It's somewhat of a delicate balance. How well they manage that going forward remains to be seen.


JKG
 
A lot of the pressure to change things in computers is industry driven, not really consumer driven.

Ask anyone what they really want their computing devices to do, and dig hard -- and the answers will be the same. No matter which flavor of computer tech they profess to be a fan of.

That's for the 10% who've actually thought about it, anyway. The rest just mill around, buying crap they don't need and being disappointed enough with it that they try again in a year or two.

The definition of insanity...
 
denverpilot said:
A lot of the pressure to change things in computers is industry driven, not really consumer driven.

Ask anyone what they really want their computing devices to do, and dig hard -- and the answers will be the same. No matter which flavor of computer tech they profess to be a fan of.

That's for the 10% who've actually thought about it, anyway. The rest just mill around, buying crap they don't need and being disappointed enough with it that they try again in a year or two.

The definition of insanity...
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For years, technology manufacturers have competed (quite successfully) for consumer revenue based on nothing but nearly useless features and bigger, "faster" numbers, and it still happens today. That strategy also works in the enterprise space more often than many folks would likely care to admit. Change the eye candy or bump up the numbers, and suddenly everyone has to have the "new" version.

I would agree that consumers generally don't know what they want. If I recall correctly, that was one of the things that Steve Jobs once said that has been used as an example of his "arrogance" toward the consumer, even though it is largely true. Innovators, whether in the consumer or enterprise space, can see beyond the desires of the market and provide solutions to address actual problems in a way that most people aren't even thinking about. Unfortunately, most companies aren't terribly good at innovating these days.


JKG
 
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Unfortunately, most companies aren't terribly good at innovating these days.
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They don't have to be. They either but the innovators out at pennies on the future dollars or if the innovators won't play ball, they slap them with giant patent infringement lawsuits for stuff that never should have held a patent in the first place.

If you're an innovator, a real one, and not planning on bringing in some industry insiders to play reindeer games, you'd better budget for at least one complete bankruptcy and plan to crank hard on Marketing and getting to market before one of the big tech companies steals the entire thing. Or just come up with a reasonable number to sell the whole thing off that you'd take, and walk away... no conscience about what happens to your former employees as the Borg swallows them while like a dog snack.
 
I just left the WWDC conference in San Francisco and IOS 7 is a great improvement. I have been using it myself for the last week and here are some of the good things about it....
Better battery power management
More intuitive functionality with an additional axis.
Much better integration to desktop OSX
Improved map and photo management
FYI foreflight works great on it to. I used it last night flying around San Francisco.
This is also the first step to introducing true 3D user interfaces . If you tilt the phone the buttons appear to float on the background.
Oh and auto app updates... Multitasking and remote lock features for stolen phones.
What's coming:
Very cool apps and new interfaces for all of your apps at least the good ones.

I already plan on releasing a new photo app for taking high speed arial shots.


Sorry for the grammar typing while at 37k feet on a phone is not ideal.
 
That whole list, battery sounds useful.

Maybe Auto-updates, because I sure hate the never ending stream of them... But Apple and App developers better speed up their emergency release process or up their QA game a whole lot.

It's quite common to see "Don't install this version, it's broken on X version of the phone!" in the description of an App right now (which devs can change at any time...) "We are waiting on Apple to approve the fixed version!" (Which can take days... Why don't they just let the developer revert back to a previously approved version with a single mouse click?)

Multitasking... Supported on older processors? That'll beat down an iPhone 4.

The rest was a big yawn. I don't need to be distracted by 3D at the movies, and I don't need it for my icons.
 
I see nothing in that list of changes that I want or need. I'm fine as is and have no desire to go thru the FUBAR usually attended by new op sys from anyone, Apple, Microsoft, Google or the Herman Dubell Aluminum Storm Door and Computer Company.

Cheers
 
I love to hear the comments of those that hate change of any type. The list of actual changes combined with technical modifications, which would take way to long to describe, is definitely worth it. To each their own just don't start complaining when the new apps will not work on your old phone. If you know anything about Android phones you also know their apps are much more hardware and OS version specific.
 
rkdF250 said:
If you know anything about Android phones you also know their apps are much more hardware and OS version specific.
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You mean like running on umpteen manufacturer's platforms vs. one manufacturer's platform? :dunno: I've had very few issues with Android not working across different devices...in fact, can't think of one I've had and we have a five different Android devices from four different manufacturers.

But back on topic.... it's never easy to make a major UI change when something has the penetration of the current iOS interface. Only time will tell if they're making a mistake with this change.
 
Considering that the majority of their users are on the current OS I doubt they will suffer any.
 
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