Into the Wild

tonycondon

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Has anyone read the book or seen the movie? It came out on DVD yesterday. I got Leah the book a few weeks ago and she tore through it. the movie was great, watched it last night. what an adventure.
 
Haven't seen the movie yet, but the Book was great. Krakauer is a really good writer, and the story was fascinating. What got me was that had the kid done just a it more research he'd probably still be alive.

Also "Into Thin Air" is another good read.

Pete
 
I enjoyed the book a number of years ago but didn't see the movie.
 
I read the book a few years ago then saw the film this Fall. Book was awesome. I also enjoyed Under the Banner of Heaven by Krakauer as well. The Flim Into the Wild was very well done but really slammed the parents of the kid as the driving force behind his psyche. The book did not do this as much and I can't tell if it was real or just embelishment or artistic license by the film maker. Both are definitly worth it by the way.
 
I read the book a few years ago then saw the film this Fall. Book was awesome. I also enjoyed Under the Banner of Heaven by Krakauer as well. The Flim Into the Wild was very well done but really slammed the parents of the kid as the driving force behind his psyche. The book did not do this as much and I can't tell if it was real or just embelishment or artistic license by the film maker. Both are definitly worth it by the way.
Yeah, well, any mental health professional who read the book could probably tell you that chemical imbalances were probably responsible for his psyche. It doesn't make the story any less compelling and I enjoyed the book. Haven't seen the movie. He died in my back yard here. I've been to the bus many times. I've got a photo of it somewheres....
 
"psychiatry is a form of pseudoscience" - Tom Cruise

One of the few things I agree with him about. But back to the book/movie...

I've read the book and seen the movie. Having a 20 year old son it was difficult for me to sit through the movie. I just can't imagine what his parents went through. I thought both were great, and the movie soundtrack is awesome. $.02
 
Many young lost ones with McCandless in their hearts make the trek to the bus on foot, like the legions who visit Jim Morrison's grave. Since the movie even more do so. Fortunately none of them have suffered McCandless' fate. Yet.

I have to agree with my coworker:

Alaskan [National] Park Ranger Peter Christian wrote: “I am exposed continually to what I will call the ‘McCandless Phenomenon.’ People, nearly always young men, come to Alaska to challenge themselves against an unforgiving wilderness landscape where convenience of access and possibility of rescue are practically nonexistent […] When you consider McCandless from my perspective, you quickly see that what he did wasn’t even particularly daring, just stupid, tragic, and inconsiderate. First off, he spent very little time learning how to actually live in the wild. He arrived at the Stampede Trail without even a map of the area. If he [had] had a good map he could have walked out of his predicament […] Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide.”
 
That is the actual bus in my picture. Much of the Alaskan shoot was filmed about forty miles away, just off the highway. If you're curious...

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...12,-149.438782&spn=0.404637,1.108246&t=h&z=10

While most of the trail is in poor resolution the actual bus location has much better imagery and you can actually zoom in and see it.

The bus was brought in years ago towed behind a bulldozer to be used as temporary shelter for workers building the trail to a now-abandoned mine. The trail is now an ATV track mostly used by moose hunters and the rangers who police them.

McCandless wasn't aware that the bus existed. If he hadn't stumbled on it it is very likely that 1) he would have given up, turned around, hiked back and found some other way to kill himself later; 2) died much sooner out there; or 3) broken into one of the several park service patrol cabins that exist within a two day walk to the south, lived there until being discovered and arrested thus saving his life - maybe.
 
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It was my understanding no scenes were actually filmed at the real bus, which is accessible only by helicopter or a 25 mile ride through difficult terrain on an ATV. Or, obviously, by foot B) But I haven't seen the movie or the "making of" so I could be wrong. Most all the Alaskan scenes were either filmed in Fairbanks or in Cantwell, AK which is south of here.

The photos and the Google map are of the actual bus where McCandless spent the last days. As you know from the book people still use it as a camp, though it is pretty nasty inside now. That is a pretty popular area for moose hunting though you have to be a good ATV rider to get there as there are several deep river and stream crossings. Some jerk last summer was selling pieces of the bus on eBay :rolleyes:

Edit: There's this from a Sean Penn interview...

Of all the locations Penn had to scout, the remote spot in Alaska where McCandless spent his final months proved to be the most difficult to replicate. He started by visiting the real bus, which still sits in the wilderness west of Healy.
PENN: We went in the winter on snow machines. [The bus was] in exactly the same state. The most impacting thing is that [McCandless's] boots are still sitting there on the floor and his pants are still there folded, with the patches he sewed into them. As a story that I'd followed for so long, that was a pretty big moment... It was very moving, but I was also there to work. I knew I wasn't going to shoot there. It would have been obnoxious, a kind of rape of the area to have a whole crew there. I was going there to make a pilgrimage but also to find a reference. It affirmed for me that what I had in my head was quite accurate. Our place is an approximation.
We had a scout by the name of John Jabaley—he was the point man to find our location. We searched for over a month. It was a ton of time walking in the snow and trudging and getting cold and wet and frustrated. I was getting to the point where I was wanting to take it out on John, because we hadn't found what I wanted. But that night he came and said, "I think I might have found it." So we took snowmobiles, and as we approached I could see that this is what I'd had in mind. The hill from the river was dead on. And just as we got to the top, where we eventually placed our bus, there were three moose. And I just said, "This is it."
WESTERBERG: The real bus was a 1942 International. Those had so much iron in them that if they were in the States they'd already have been scrapped. But it costs so much to haul one in Alaska that it's cheaper to let it rot in a field. And sure enough, we found two of them up there.
 
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Where did I read that it was filmed at the real bus? I could have sworn...

The production replicated the bus elsewhere, feeling that using the actual bus would not only be disrespectful, but also impractical: it’s inaccessible to automobiles, and sometimes, as Chris fatally discovered, difficult to reach even on foot. The movie bus was situated over 50 miles away, southeast of Cantwell, off the Denali Highway, along the Jack River, on Ahtna tribal land.

http://www.fandango.com/commentator_letsgo...emintothewildem_132

I've got to give up smokin' crack.
 
Many young lost ones with McCandless in their hearts make the trek to the bus on foot, like the legions who visit Jim Morrison's grave. Since the movie even more do so. Fortunately none of them have suffered McCandless' fate. Yet.

I have to agree with my coworker:

Interesting.

How many of these modern-day Thoreaus do you see out there?

And who gets the dubious honor of riding herd on these people when they get themselves into trouble and their families back home get nervous?
 
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While Thoreau had some good ideas, in many ways he was full of it. We all depend on each other in varying degrees, as we have to have someone to teach us initially.
 
While Thoreau had some good ideas, in many ways he was full of it. We all depend on each other in varying degrees, as we have to have someone to teach us initially.

Always my impression, as well. Not to mention that he actually went into town every now and then whilst roughing it....
 
just watched the movie again last night. the first time i watched the movie i started to doze off in the last 1/3rd. Glad i watched it again.
 
One of the few movies I've bought without seeing it first, or reading the book. Good movie, still think the guy had a few loose screws though.
 
I never read the book, but my recollection of the movie was just thinking that McCandless came off as an a-hole.

I guess my idea of being "tested" involves a lot of research, preparation, and ensuring a continual "out". I have a lot of respect for "adventurers", primarily those who, after succeeding or failing, make it back home, but I see no romance in throwing yourself into a situation in an incompetent manner, and then failing.
-harry
 
No one should have bought the book or went to the movie!:mad3: Since the guy is dead I will refrain for using names to describe him, but there would be an endless supply!:mad3: The phrase you can't fix stupid comes to mind. :mad3:

It is not a real Alaskan adventure for that read Sam White.
 
Many young lost ones with McCandless in their hearts make the trek to the bus on foot, like the legions who visit Jim Morrison's grave. Since the movie even more do so. Fortunately none of them have suffered McCandless' fate. Yet.

I have to agree with my coworker:

I have to agree with him as well.

First, I haven't read the book...but the movie was fantastic. That said, he basically committed suicide. Then the book/movie turned him into a hero. If he'd even thought about looking at a map he'd have lived. He's not the American hero that he's made out to be.
 
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