Impressed with Wealth, Aviation-Style

I can say from observation that having a gazillion bucks will not make some people happy, but they can be unhappy in style. I also don't care whether someone has new money, old money, made it themselves, inherited it, are frugal with it, or ostentatious with it, as long as they are courteous. Most are, although there are some others...
 
Everskyward said:
I can say from observation that having a gazillion bucks will not make some people happy, but they can be unhappy in style. I also don't care whether someone has new money, old money, made it themselves, inherited it, are frugal with it, or ostentatious with it, as long as they pay in advance, are courteous and don't trash the plane. Most are, although there are some others...
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FTFY;)
 
Everskyward said:
Neither do most of the people who ride in the back even though many can well afford it. The ones who seem to have the most interest are the occasional people who are from the worker bee ranks or middle management, not the upper execs.
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That's 'cuz the upper execs are using the time back there to plan ways of generating the future $$$..which is why they're able to be back there in the first place! :)
 
Everskyward said:
I can say from observation that having a gazillion bucks will not make some people happy, but they can be unhappy in style. I also don't care whether someone has new money, old money, made it themselves, inherited it, are frugal with it, or ostentatious with it, as long as they are courteous. Most are, although there are some others...
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Hmmm.. I guess this makes me unstylishly happy :)
 
I am more impressed with wealth, Arts-style. Four years ago when the first succesful maestro in Peoria in about 40 years was fired from the Peoria Symphony (after ten good years), I was part of a group of disaffected supporters who met in ballroom. Although I had the honor of standing up and writing the first check (measured in AMUs), I was quickly dwarfed by some of the city's largest and well know benefactors. We founded a Symphony at the start of this most recent, great depression.

That was impressive (not me, the BIG benefactors). It was as if somebody opened a faucet.
 
Zhunter said:
Me thinks if I had 800K to use towards a plane, it would be in the Malibu type plane
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If I had 800K, I'd add an Aspen to the cherokee, get it painted, then put the rest into high-yield utility bonds.

Oh yeah, and remodel the kitchen. The appliances are 30 yrs old.
 
comanchepilot said:
Not full fuel. No luggage. And with TKS - not two.
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I assume you've researched those numbers. I'm busy (too lazy) and haven't done so!

Well, I'm of average weight, and my petite wife is far below, so I guess it would still work out for us!
 
bbchien said:
I am more impressed with wealth, Arts-style. Four years ago when the first succesful maestro in Peoria in about 40 years was fired from the Peoria Symphony (after ten good years), I was part of a group of disaffected supporters who met in ballroom. Although I had the honor of standing up and writing the first check (measured in AMUs), I was quickly dwarfed by some of the city's largest and well know benefactors. We founded a Symphony at the start of this most recent, great depression.

That was impressive (not me, the BIG benefactors). It was as if somebody opened a faucet.
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People in my profession owe you an enormous THANK YOU!

Those in the Arts can work as hard as they like at perfecting what we do; but it is all meaningless without those who truly appreciate it!
 
us AAirways said:
If I 'only' had $2 million, no way I would drop almost half of it on a Cirrus.
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I on the other hand could be tempted but no way my wife would allow it. Hopefully she would compromise and allow me to get a slightly used one say for $600 k. :D
 
comanchepilot said:
Not full fuel. No luggage. And with TKS - not two.
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I think you need to check your numbers....or maybe lose some weight.

The two SR22s we had in the club both had useful loads of around 1150 lbs and both had TKS. With full fuel (81 gals) that leaves 664 lbs for pax/baggage.
 
wrighthenry said:
Didnt the latest model come with a gross weight increase as well?
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Yes. Better yet, almost all of it went to the bottom line so full fuel payload went up by about 200#. That the increase would drop to the useful load bottom line was not a given since a lot of redesign was required. There is a larger chute and a larger rocket. The flaps now have a max extension speed of 150; up from 119. The gear was also beefed up. That means weight had to be saved elsewhere to keep from eating away at the 200# increase.
 
peppy said:
Yes. Better yet, almost all of it went to the bottom line so full fuel payload went up by about 200#. That the increase would drop to the useful load bottom line was not a given since a lot of redesign was required. There is a larger chute and a larger rocket. The flaps now have a max extension speed of 150; up from 119. The gear was also beefed up. That means weight had to be saved elsewhere to keep from eating away at the 200# increase.
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It is a fine aircraft--about as capable, roomy, and fast as you're going to get in a single.
 
My, how times have changed. I bought the equivalent Turbo Fiki 300hp single with more seats and much better payload brand new for $135k 31 years ago.
spiderweb said:
It is like with cars. Let someone buy it and fly it a few hundred hours. Presto! You can now buy it for 30% less!
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My lovely wife is doing contract work on a international project. Her portion is analyzing the relevant treaties/legal ramifications and tax consequences of the proposed venture. One of her clients dropped her off last week in their BBJ. Nice plane. Will easily carry two with luggage, but the ramp fees are a b**ch!!!!
 
wabower said:
My, how times have changed. I bought the equivalent Turbo Fiki 300hp single with more seats and much better payload brand new for $135k 31 years ago.
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Which on a quick back of an envelope calculation is what - about $320k today. Not bad.
 
Well, you can bet your whatsit that if it had cost 3XX back then you would have seen somebody else flying it. ;)

alaskaflyer said:
Which on a quick back of an envelope calculation is what - about $320k today. Not bad.
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dell30rb said:
Centurion?
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Yep, T210N. I didn't buy it because I was particularly enamored with 210's, it was because it was the only FIKI Single available, and only in the T configuration. It turned out to be an incredible package, and served us well until I retired the first time.
 
wabower said:
Yep, T210N. I didn't buy it because I was particularly enamored with 210's, it was because it was the only FIKI Single available, and only in the T configuration. It turned out to be an incredible package, and served us well until I retired the first time.
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That was quite a package....

I am talking about the plane itself.
 
ja_user said:
That was quite a package....

I am talking about the plane itself.
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It's all about the package. (Does that sound nice)

Centurions range from a n/a engine, shotgun barely IFR panel all the way to FIKI Turbo with a nice 6 pack, redundant systems, radar.... Same airframe though
 
dell30rb said:
It's all about the package. (Does that sound nice)

Centurions range from a n/a engine, shotgun barely IFR panel all the way to FIKI Turbo with a nice 6 pack, redundant systems, radar.... Same airframe though
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I am speaking of the pressurized packages..
 
spiderweb said:
It is a fine aircraft--about as capable, roomy, and fast as you're going to get in a single.
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It is. I would love one but even more than that I would love to be in the position to buy one whether I did or didn't.
 
And today I'm reviewing quotes for interior refurb and panel upgrade for a Cessna Encore. Interior is ~$150k but the panel is a bargain at only $93k, unless we upgrade the engine/fuel cluster to LED, in which case that quote will be roughly equal to the interior cost. Who said airplanes were expensive?

wabower said:
My, how times have changed. I bought the equivalent Turbo Fiki 300hp single with more seats and much better payload brand new for $135k 31 years ago.
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wabower said:
And today I'm reviewing quotes for interior refurb and panel upgrade for a Cessna Encore. Interior is ~$150k but the panel is a bargain at only $93k, unless we upgrade the engine/fuel cluster to LED, in which case that quote will be roughly equal to the interior cost. Who said airplanes were expensive?
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So you are comparing what you spent on a piston single 31 years ago to rufurbishing a jet today?
 
Then there was the Malibu, with the sequentially exploding crankshaft.
 
If that's how it appears to you, maybe so. Or perhaps thinking that I could buy furniture and rugs for most of the neighborhood for the cost of refurbing a small biz-jet interior. Or maybe use the money to buy two Barons that I wouldn't like. Or who knows what else?

Fearless Tower said:
So you are comparing what you spent on a piston single 31 years ago to rufurbishing a jet today?
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