If a certain Republican Candidate wins POTUS election

Shawn said:
Not really...I think it will be more likely that in 2020 the next president will just have to deal with all the gold latrines and exotic animal headliner he will have installed.
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When you can afford the very best................:D
 
JGoodish said:
Trump's kids have been groomed for years to take over the business. I assume that he would officially step away from the business if elected, and the business would retain the aircraft.


JKG
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I believe he is on record saying he will step away and his kids would take over the business.
 
In politics, "there's always a tape, a video, an email, a photo or a text message". Panetta got it right, just use the phone (hmm, back to the tape). So do everything in person? Have messengers?

Like no one has ever said **** before!
 
If a certain someone who's name rhymes with what I do in the bathroom wins the election I suspect I'm going to quickly become an expatriate, and TFR's will be the least of my worries.
 
steingar said:
If a certain someone who's name rhymes with what I do in the bathroom wins the election I suspect I'm going to quickly become an expatriate, and TFR's will be the least of my worries.
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If there's someplace better, why don't you leave now? Maybe Cuba, since they have the best medical care on the planet, and as a bonus it's chock full of vintage automobiles. And the People have all the power, not some clown dictator.
 
Well, that was uncalled for. There are plenty of decent places to live outside the US, Canada for one if you can stand the climate. You might not be able to afford to fly, of course. There's also Great Britain or France. In 2004 after my home state passed some very regressive measures, I considered seriously expatriating to southern France. If The Donald wins in November I might even consider it again.
 
azure said:
Well, that was uncalled for. There are plenty of decent places to live outside the US, Canada for one if you can stand the climate. You might not be able to afford to fly, of course. There's also Great Britain or France. In 2004 after my home state passed some very regressive measures, I considered seriously expatriating to southern France. If The Donald wins in November I might even consider it again.
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Why not Mexico?
 
paflyer said:
Why not Mexico?
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Many US retirees choose Mexico or other Latin American countries. Costa Rica and Panama come to mind. There is a large expat community near Guadalajara.
 
paflyer said:
Why not Mexico?
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No reason, I just didn't mention it as I'm not very familiar with it. I have a friend who is in love with Mexico, but myself, I've never been there nor had any driving desire to visit.
 
Everskyward said:
Many US retirees choose Mexico or other Latin American countries. Costa Rica and Panama come to mind. There is a large expat community near Guadalajara.
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Right, but we're not talking about retirement, we're talking about self-political exile.
 
paflyer said:
Right, but we're not talking about retirement, we're talking about self-political exile.
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Those two situations are not mutually exclusive. People's reasons for moving are their own business.
 
azure said:
Well, that was uncalled for. There are plenty of decent places to live outside the US, Canada for one if you can stand the climate. You might not be able to afford to fly, of course. There's also Great Britain or France. In 2004 after my home state passed some very regressive measures, I considered seriously expatriating to southern France. If The Donald wins in November I might even consider it again.
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Canada isn't that diffrent, bang for the buck for how much a buck goes as far as the world market ain't that great.

As for France, this ain't your parents France, immigrants have been de-franceing it since the 90s which is very sad given the culture.

After living abroad, if I was going to move somewhere and live off my SS or some shrinking pension, it'd be Thailand.
 
You get a lot of bang for your buck in Canada right now if your money is in US dollars. I was there all last week. But that varies with the exchange rate. A couple years ago it was not so.
 
James331 said:
Canada isn't that diffrent, bang for the buck for how much a buck goes as far as the world market ain't that great.
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Last I checked, gas prices in Canada were sky high. Is that no longer so? I assume that translates to 100LL as well, but I really don't know for sure.
 
azure said:
Last I checked, gas prices in Canada were sky high. Is that no longer so? I assume that translates to 100LL as well, but I really don't know for sure.
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If you go this site, it seems like a general average of the recent prices is about $1.70/liter, which is about $6.40/gallon $Canadian. That's $4.90 US dollars. I'm not sure what is normal for 100LL here these days.

http://www.100ll.ca/index.php
 
Everskyward said:
If you go this site, it seems like a general average of the recent prices is about $1.70/liter, which is about $6.40/gallon $Canadian. That's $4.90 US dollars. I'm not sure what is normal for 100LL here these days.

http://www.100ll.ca/index.php
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Well $4.90 wouldn't be prohibitive I suspect, most of us were living with prices like that, and even worse, until last year. But just like in the US, the price spread is huge and location seems to be a big factor. Generally speaking fuel prices are considerably cheaper out West (with the exception of the NW Territories and Yukon). Most of the fields whose names I recognize are in Ontario and Quebec, and there the prices seem to be mostly above $2/liter.

It's not quite as bad as I thought, although a big part of that is the exchange rate. Living in Canada, on Canadian wages, I expect it's still more expensive to fly there than here.
 
azure said:
Well $4.90 wouldn't be prohibitive I suspect, most of us were living with prices like that, and even worse, until last year. But just like in the US, the price spread is huge and location seems to be a big factor. Generally speaking fuel prices are considerably cheaper out West (with the exception of the NW Territories and Yukon). Most of the fields whose names I recognize are in Ontario and Quebec, and there the prices seem to be mostly above $2/liter.

It's not quite as bad as I thought, although a big part of that is the exchange rate. Living in Canada, on Canadian wages, I expect it's still more expensive to fly there than here.
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I'm much more familiar with Alberta than the other provinces. To me, it seems as if the provinces in Canada are somewhat like their US counterparts directly south of them, with the exception of Quebec, which has no US equivalent. People here in the US seem to think of Canada as a nebulous whole, but there are distinct regional differences, and they can seem as divided as the US at times.
 
azure said:
Well, that was uncalled for. There are plenty of decent places to live outside the US, Canada for one if you can stand the climate. You might not be able to afford to fly, of course. There's also Great Britain or France. In 2004 after my home state passed some very regressive measures, I considered seriously expatriating to southern France. If The Donald wins in November I might even consider it again.
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I just don't understand why people say this. It's never credible. Are we supposed to say we'd miss you? As far as the celebrities go, I'm sure where they consider their primary residence makes little difference to anyone anyway.
 
It's quite a difference to be an ex-pat still paying taxes and having all the rights of citizenship, and denouncing citizenship.

All the threats of "I'm leaving the country" never include dropping citizenship or voting privileges, I've noticed.

Not sure it accomplishes much. Mostly saying "I'm going on vacation." It's not much of a political stand.
 
denverpilot said:
It's quite a difference to be an ex-pat still paying taxes and having all the rights of citizenship, and denouncing citizenship.

All the threats of "I'm leaving the country" never include dropping citizenship or voting privileges, I've noticed.

Not sure it accomplishes much. Mostly saying "I'm going on vacation." It's not much of a political stand.
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It leaves the door open in case the political climate changes the way the person wants it to change in the future? Who knows. I have friends and relatives who have gone both ways, either becoming US citizens, or citizens of another country, giving up their US citizenship. Never asked why as I figured it was none of my business.
 
Everskyward said:
It leaves the door open in case the political climate changes the way the person wants it to change in the future? Who knows. I have friends and relatives who have gone both ways, either becoming US citizens, or citizens of another country, giving up their US citizenship. Never asked why as I figured it was none of my business.
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Fine, but that doesn't refute what I said about it. Useless as a "protest". Nobody normal gives a crap if anyone else leaves that they don't know. And if someone you know leaves and you're normal, you don't care either, as evidenced by your story.

"I'm going to leave if..."
"Okay, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
 
You're right that as a protest it's pretty ineffective. I wouldn't vote one way or another based on not wanting someone else to leave. I see it as simple conversation, of the political kind. Which we frown upon here. ;)
 
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Bye, guys. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. And do remember to mail in your U.S. Taxes every year until you come back. :p
 
mscard88 said:
Not to mention the defensive systems onboard and other classified items.
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I seem to recall reading that AF1 requires 4 engines and in-flight refueling capability for transoceanic flights. Truth?
 
garyb said:
I seem to recall reading that AF1 requires 4 engines and in-flight refueling capability for transoceanic flights. Truth?
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If you're asking me, I dunno about the 4 engine requirement but I do believe the 747s used now are inflight refuelable. I'm sure you're aware that AF1 is just the call sign when the Pres is aboard an aircraft, could be an Air Force Gulfstream, AF 737, AF 757 etc. All from the same special squadron at Andrews which includes the two 747s typically used by the Pres.
 
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