Ice around hangar/ramp areas

[Howard Wilson]

Ehhh, Wings Unlimited has the Cessna tow hook drawing and it's showing basically just a bolt change, and limiting the pull to 1200#s. I must have been thinking of the tricycle to taildragger conversions for Cessnas. Sorry to go too far off of the ice thread...........

 

[denverpilot]

So Henning says there's a plate and the guy looking at the drawing says it's a stronger bolt in the same spot.

I'm not home so I can't look. But I don't remember there being any structural changes. And as stated, 1200 lbs there and Cessna was ok with it.

Which was where I was headed. You can exceed 1200 lbs of pull yanking a Skylane full of fuel uphill with a winch, I suppose. Depends on rolling resistance and slope as well as aircraft loading.

Best to just push hard on the cowl and break the fasteners. That's how all the cool kids over in rental-row do it when their CFI isn't looking. ROFL! (Kidding.)

 

[AggieMike88]

Yak Tracs. They are rubber mesh with what looks like springs on the undersides that slip over your boots. They're awesome. Ice? Bring it!

That's a nice solution!! It would have worked well for our recent ice weather around D/FW.

https://www.yaktrax.com/product/pro

 

[Henning]

So Henning says there's a plate and the guy looking at the drawing says it's a stronger bolt in the same spot.

I'm not home so I can't look. But I don't remember there being any structural changes. And as stated, 1200 lbs there and Cessna was ok with it.

Which was where I was headed. You can exceed 1200 lbs of pull yanking a Skylane full of fuel uphill with a winch, I suppose. Depends on rolling resistance and slope as well as aircraft loading.

Best to just push hard on the cowl and break the fasteners. That's how all the cool kids over in rental-row do it when their CFI isn't looking. ROFL! (Kidding.)

All the tow hooks I have seen have been a flat plate with a pelican hook that can be disengaged by a cable ended next to the pilot. They are likely all aftermarket, I can't say that I've ever used a Cessna factory tow hook.

 

[RV10flyer]

I have taken 1/4" hex X 3/8" long zip screws(found at HVAC or gutter distributors) and screw them into an old pair of work boots. Works great .

http://www.northwaysmachinery.com/p...mNumber=Malco HW6X38ZT ZIP IN Screws Qty 1000

 

[Howard Wilson]

So Henning says there's a plate and the guy looking at the drawing says it's a stronger bolt in the same spot.

I'm not home so I can't look. But I don't remember there being any structural changes. And as stated, 1200 lbs there and Cessna was ok with it.

Which was where I was headed. You can exceed 1200 lbs of pull yanking a Skylane full of fuel uphill with a winch, I suppose. Depends on rolling resistance and slope as well as aircraft loading.

Best to just push hard on the cowl and break the fasteners. That's how all the cool kids over in rental-row do it when their CFI isn't looking. ROFL! (Kidding.)

Stronger or longer. See if I can post the drawing.

 

[timwinters]

Which was where I was headed. You can exceed 1200 lbs of pull yanking a Skylane full of fuel uphill with a winch, I suppose. Depends on rolling resistance and slope as well as aircraft loading.

No effing way. As long as you don't hit anything or "yank" the slack out of the cable.

Even then, attach a good black bungee cord to the tail ring and the winch cable to the bungee. The bungee will absorb any shock. This is what I did when I was in a hangar with a winch permanently mounted in it. I replaced he bungee's hooks with a carabiner. I looped both ends of the bungee through the carabiner and clipped it to the tail ring. Then I attached the winch cable to the bungee "loop" that was hanging from the tail ring.

A cheap carabiner, a bungee, something is going to break before the plane is damaged.

 

[denverpilot]

No effing way. As long as you don't hit anything or "yank" the slack out of the cable.



Even then, attach a good black bungee cord to the tail ring and the winch cable to the bungee. The bungee will absorb any shock. This is what I did when I was in a hangar with a winch permanently mounted in it. I replaced he bungee's hooks with a carabiner. I looped both ends of the bungee through the carabiner and clipped it to the tail ring. Then I attached the winch cable to the bungee "loop" that was hanging from the tail ring.



A cheap carabiner, a bungee, something is going to break before the plane is damaged.

Good idea. Maybe I wasn't clear, I said "maybe" because there's too many variables, including the idiot who leaves a chock in and tries to winch over it. Heh.


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[Lawreston]

You're close, aircraft is a pa-28-181 2550# GW.
[Snip]
This is a north facing hangar, there's a waiting list for south-facing at this airport.

My personal experience with my north-facing hangar(photos #1 and 2). Photo #3 is of the hangar at the rear of my building. Painful! This is the East end of the building, so gets the morning sun(on south side). North side doesn't get the sun until somewhat after noon, and then for only several hours.
However, it's become better since the Hangar Condo Assn. bought a snow blower and we share "use responsibilities."

HR