I want YOU on the PoA MC! (job posting)

Velocity173 said:
Yeah but Ryan is dedicated. I can see Ryan in the middle of class during his college finals, on POA, and debating the merits of high wing vs low wing. We need that sort of pilot in the MC.
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You’re not far from the truth! ;)
 
I want to thank everyone who's volunteered so far - keep them coming! :)

I haven't responded to all the PMs I've received, and we are having active conversations on potential candidates.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Pay: $0
Benefits: None
Perks: Everyone hates you

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You speak the truth way back when I moderated a sports team board on AOL, it was the old CBS Sports boards. That say you can please some of the people some of the time doesn't apply to board moderation.
 
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Scared me to death! 2 people (well, one actually... And that mention was quoted by another) mentioned me in this thread... I was afeared I was being "voluntold" to be a moderator.

Whew!

While I truly enjoy this community, I have a hard time not saying things that might drop the banhammer on myownself...

I don't think I'm the proper material, and am glad no one actually suggested that I might be fit for such duty...

I'm a igit, born and raised, as @Timbeck2 can attest.
 
I really think you should reach out personally to the people you want. Yes, that’s a bit of “keeping your own”, but isn’t that what you would do in your selection process anyway?
Good folks here may not want to apply, just to be rejected.
Just my humble opinion
 
I’ll put myself in ban territory to the new regime by commenting on a person who seeks a job out of a sense of duty rather then out of a sense of ambition. Has there ever been a person that didn’t want the job(yeah, that job) but later did so out of a sense of duty?
 
luvflyin said:
I’ll put myself in ban territory to the new regime by commenting on a person who seeks a job out of a sense of duty rather then out of a sense of ambition. Has there ever been a person that didn’t want the job(yeah, that job) but later did so out of a sense of duty?
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That's the trick, finding a person who won't fall victim to the desire to be big-fish, little pond.

How many HOA have that? how many other organizations? I'm sure we've all had the "joy" of being a member of an organization and dealing with such people.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
If you look at the total number of people who are talking about stepping down, you're looking at roughly 7. However several of those have not been hugely active in moderation. I don't think we have a fixed number that we're saying are required to do this, and depending on who applies and timeframe, we may decide to add fewer members than are leaving, may be more, may be the same.
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I'd consider putting my hat in the ring to help with the IT needs. While I've got the IT background dont know that I'd necessarily qualify for a MC role; I do tend to lurk more than post but even considering my lurking, I am somewhat sporadic in my appearances here and hardly review every thread/post when I am here, just those that sound of interest to me and I've also been known to publicly "take sides" in controversial "political" topics/questions such as "calling clear before clear." I also tend to be overly verbose but I dont think I've posted anything ban worthy...

Despite all of that though, I'd still be a bit hesitant to put my name in the hat.... Why are 7 members of the council looking to step down? I mean unless the council is like 50+ members, 7 members just seems like a lot of turn over for a management council/board at one time so why now? I wouldn't want to volunteer for something that everyone is running from. I'd like to have an idea of what I'm getting myself into and if its been a long while since the last person to step down I guess I could see the first one to step downing causing an exodus... How many members are on the council in total? When did the last one leave and get replaced?



luvflyin said:
I’ll put myself in ban territory to the new regime by commenting on a person who seeks a job out of a sense of duty rather then out of a sense of ambition. Has there ever been a person that didn’t want the job(yeah, that job) but later did so out of a sense of duty?
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A little difficult to parse but... Military?
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Pay: $0
Benefits: None
Perks: Everyone hates you

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I think this is Ted's first day in advertising.

Bob Noel said:
That's the trick, finding a person who won't fall victim to the desire to be big-fish, little pond.

How many HOA have that?
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NOTHING brings out the totalitarian dictator tendencies in an otherwise normal person faster than a seat on a homeowners association board. It only took me a couple of years living under the yoke of a HOA to decide I'll never again live anywhere that has one.
 
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apr911 said:
Despite all of that though, I'd still be a bit hesitant to put my name in the hat.... Why are 7 members of the council looking to step down?
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That is my biggest question, why are seven wanting to step down at the same time? Seems like a high percentage of moderators. And, with that much change, the "tone" or "direction" of the board is likely to change as well.

Is that the goal, change the tone of the board and how it is moderated?
 
apr911 said:
Despite all of that though, I'd still be a bit hesitant to put my name in the hat.... Why are 7 members of the council looking to step down? I mean unless the council is like 50+ members, 7 members just seems like a lot of turn over for a management council/board at one time so why now? I wouldn't want to volunteer for something that everyone is running from. I'd like to have an idea of what I'm getting myself into and if its been a long while since the last person to step down I guess I could see the first one to step downing causing an exodus... How many members are on the council in total? When did the last one leave and get replaced?
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That's a good and reasonable question.

To be clear, it's not that we're all going "This place sucks, this job sucks, we're out." If you look at the board, most of us have been on it for a number of years. For example, I'm one of the ones looking to step down and I've been on the MC for... I think 5 years.

Like I said in the original posting, most of us are members who really aren't very active on the board very much anymore. When was the last time I answered an aviation question or participated in an aviation thread? I pretty much only post my "Thinking about" threads and otherwise read threads that have been reported or require moderation. I won't speak for others thinking about stepping down but they're all similar.

Asking people to join - well that's how we've always done it, but there's also been a question of who would be willing to do the job and we haven't wanted to ask people and make them feel that they "have" to say yes. This helps that by letting those who have a willingness raise their hands.

There was no big fight, no argument, nothing of the sort. It really just has come down to the thought that the place would benefit from new blood that's more in tune with the goings on of today.

That said, given the amount people complain about the job the MC does, it's flattering to see how many are concerned that a mass exodus would hurt the place. So y'all must not hate us too much. ;)

Believe me, we are not going to simply take anyone and everyone who expresses interest. We are definitely looking for people who truly believe in the board and its integrity. The MC members stepping down still want the board to thrive for years to come for the membership as a whole.
 
I just hope the new MC will be comprised of a diverse representation of all genders, ethnic groups, religious preferences, geographic backgrounds, heritages, etc. For far too long, the Tibetan Amish transgender sector has been neglected on POA.
 
Put another way as to why so many are leaving at once, the reality is a lot of us probably should've stepped down a while ago and have been wanting to or thinking about it (and have even talked about it) but in reality we had a hard time coming up with suitable replacements in our minds because we don't participate enough to really know the board members well enough to make suggestions.

I realize how this looks externally and I suppose none of us really considered that too much. But it's not because we're trying to hand off a bad organization or anything of the sort. And again, we're planning on a transition period and trying to make sure that people won't veer PoA off the rails from the general board we've come to know and love over the years.
 
Half Fast said:
I just hope the new MC will be comprised of a diverse representation of all genders, ethnic groups, religious preferences, geographic backgrounds, heritages, etc. For far too long, the Tibetan Amish transgender sector has been neglected on POA.
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I figured you would want "The Company" to take over POA to aid in the spreading of the "chemtrails."
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Put another way as to why so many are leaving at once, the reality is a lot of us probably should've stepped down a while ago and have been wanting to or thinking about it (and have even talked about it) but in reality we had a hard time coming up with suitable replacements in our minds because we don't participate enough to really know the board members well enough to make suggestions.

I realize how this looks externally and I suppose none of us really considered that too much. But it's not because we're trying to hand off a bad organization or anything of the sort. And again, we're planning on a transition period and trying to make sure that people won't veer PoA off the rails from the general board we've come to know and love over the years.
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I didn't see it hat way. I just assumed that @Mtns2Skies was making a power play. Seemed obvious at the time. :D
 
flhrci said:
I didn't see it hat way. I just assumed that @Mtns2Skies was making a power play. Seemed obvious at the time. :D
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@Mtns2Skies 4 ditcator!!!

No, I too will be stepping down after the transition. My life has gotten busier with some additional things I'd like to be doing. Taking a small page out of @Ted DuPuis book and shedding obligations.

I also haven't attended a PoA fly-in in probably 3+ years and don't really have any plans to do so in the future.

I think bringing @kayoh190 on as a moderator has shown us how little we know about the current membership, whereas he has met MANY of you and has a better understanding of who y'all are. :) He's absolutely a great moderator to lead PoA into the future, and equipping him with other active members is probably a better way to ensure PoA has a successful future compared to us old coots.
 
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Mtns2Skies said:
I think bringing @kayoh190 on as a moderator has shown us how little we know about the current membership, whereas he has met MANY of you and has a better understanding of who y'all are. :) He's absolutely a great moderator to lead PoA into the future, and equipping him with other active members is probably a better way to ensure PoA has a successful future compared to us old coots.
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Get off my lawn, you damn kids!!!!
 
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Whomever you choose, I'll put in a request that the overall composition of the MC reflect some gender (and other forms of) diversity.
 
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kath said:
Whomever you choose, I'll put in a request that the overall composition of the MC reflect some gender (and other forms of) diversity.
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That requires diversity in applicants. At least according to the MCs posts in this thread.

And, consideration is not given to those not applying directly, NOT in this thread, if I read correctly.

And, no one is going to be asked to do it, in order to not seem obligatory.
 
kath said:
Whomever you choose, I'll put in a request that the overall composition of the MC reflect some gender (and other forms of) diversity.
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You and Mari are the only regular female participants that I know of, and she may be one of the magnificent seven that are leaving. Just saying...
 
kath said:
Whomever you choose, I'll put in a request that the overall composition of the MC reflect some gender (and other forms of) diversity.
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Bill Jennings said:
You and Mari are the only regular female participants that I know of, and she may be one of the magnificent seven that are leaving. Just saying...
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Kath, while I agree with your sentiment, Bill makes a valid point. The realities of GA is that it's largely populated by old white men. And we can only work with who applies.

There are a few other female members of our board who are active, and they can decide to apply if they wish. I will say that as far as I'm aware, I think we've only had white males apply. Of course I've not met all of the applicants so I could be making an erroneous assumption there.
 
Here is what you need to do: Convert it back from a non-profit, then in an act of shameless self-dealing, sell yourself a minority share of the stock. Then sell the place to google for one or two billion and retire. Yeah, that's it.
 
Bob Noel said:
That's the trick, finding a person who won't fall victim to the desire to be big-fish, little pond.

How many HOA have that? how many other organizations? I'm sure we've all had the "joy" of being a member of an organization and dealing with such people.
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We (the HOA) have the opposite problem, no one wants to be 'in charge' including me.
 
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Bill Jennings said:
You and Mari are the only regular female participants that I know of, and she may be one of the magnificent seven that are leaving. Just saying...
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I think a lot of the female members here keep their gender to themselves because some folks in this group have not always treated women well, which is a damn shame.
 
Dave Theisen said:
I think a lot of the female members here keep their gender to themselves because some folks in this group have not always treated women well, which is a damn shame.
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Certainly true. And we have definitely attempted to curb the misogynistic posts on the board. However, that has not always been with success.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Certainly true. And we have definitely attempted to curb the misogynistic posts on the board. However, that has not always been with success.
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Hopefully the next MC will be equally as proactive in addressing misandry on the board.
 
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Dave Theisen said:
I think a lot of the female members here keep their gender to themselves because some folks in this group have not always treated women well, which is a damn shame.
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That's true, and it sucks. The same thing happens in the motorcycle world, a bunch of chest beating men saying riding is a man's thing. Bullcookies, some of my best riding fiends are female and they're damned good riders!

Nothing gender specific about these skills!

This is my friend Melissa, and you may not be able to tell, but she's smiling ear to ear. Why is she smiling after she dropped her bike? Because she's out there using her adventure bike for what it's intended for, adventure! We crossed that road right after a thunderstorm, and it was one slippery snotty road!

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Someone should tell Henning that he can apply for the job....
 
Bill Jennings said:
That's true, and it sucks. The same thing happens in the motorcycle world, a bunch of chest beating men saying riding is a man's thing. Bullcookies, some of my best riding fiends are female and they're damned good riders!

Nothing gender specific about these skills!

This is my friend Melissa, and you may not be able to tell, but she's smiling ear to ear. Why is she smiling after she dropped her bike? Because she's out there using her adventure bike for what it's intended for, adventure! We crossed that road right after a thunderstorm, and it was one slippery snotty road!

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So where were you last week when @FastEddieB and I were on Tenn 68?
 
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