I hate modern hiring practices of some companies

I hear you on the aging parent thing - my sister (who has had her own issues with employment) was living with my parents, and was heroic in allowing them to stay in the house to their respective ends. I assume Mom's still mentally competent - what's her plan, long-term, and how does it interact with your situation?
 
I hear you on the aging parent thing - my sister (who has had her own issues with employment) was living with my parents, and was heroic in allowing them to stay in the house to their respective ends. I assume Mom's still mentally competent - what's her plan, long-term, and how does it interact with your situation?

She is indecisive and would rather jsut watch tv than make hard decisions. I think she will eventually be medically forced out of the house before she makes up her mind.

She is fairly good health but hardly drives any more and she has to really, really, really want to do something before she will make herself do it, such as going to the store, getting her glasses adjusted and so forth. Getting her to leave the house is not an easy chore.

David
 
I've been faced with the aging parent thing once (still am), and will be again soon. When you are the one closest, or most responsible, it can really be a burden if you let it get to you. And it does limit your opportunities to re-locate.
 
I've been faced with the aging parent thing once (still am), and will be again soon. When you are the one closest, or most responsible, it can really be a burden if you let it get to you. And it does limit your opportunities to re-locate.
I have also done the aging parent thing. And while it's possible to do it from a distance I will be frank in that it takes money, a lot of it.
 
I have also done the aging parent thing. And while it's possible to do it from a distance I will be frank in that it takes money, a lot of it.
We tried that for a while - that's a backbreaker in a lot of ways.
 
We tried that for a while - that's a backbreaker in a lot of ways.
I was also fortunate in that my employer and my coworkers allowed my to group my time off into chunks. For a number of years. Most jobs would not be quite that flexible.
 
David,

Good luck. There are jobs and there are careers - somewhere out there is a job, and it might be closer to you than you realize. Sometimes it helps to just take a minute to step back, take a deep breath, and change your perspective.

We met for BBQ when you were out this way for some of your training.
 
If mom needs a caregiver there is no shame in moving in. But moving in may suck you in further to no employment opportunities. Plus it is super stressful and draining. It will be no matter where you are, but is worse up close. One thing to consider is do you want the house? You are going to have to deal with it one way or the other. Best of luck.
 
I have also done the aging parent thing. And while it's possible to do it from a distance I will be frank in that it takes money, a lot of it.

If mom needs a caregiver there is no shame in moving in.

This reminds me... as I review health insurance options, I should ask my agent to investigate Long Term Care options.

I'm no where old enough to really need it. But at least gather info to find out the cost structure and "how it works". Then make a plan on when to start the policy while my "youngster" age makes it affordable.
 
This reminds me... as I review health insurance options, I should ask my agent to investigate Long Term Care options.

I'm no where old enough to really need it. But at least gather info to find out the cost structure and "how it works". Then make a plan on when to start the policy while my "youngster" age makes it affordable.

It's good to investigate. Age, health and (not surprisingly) weight make big differences in price and you can lock in a rate now, or at the appropriate time. Long term care is staggeringly expensive.

John
 
It's good to investigate. Age, health and (not surprisingly) weight make big differences in price and you can lock in a rate now, or at the appropriate time. Long term care is staggeringly expensive.

John
It's expensive - and I've seen a noticeable difference in quality of care facilities, too. My observation is that long term care patients with no insurance get treated very differently than those with LTC insurance.
 
Places that use online assessment programs are the places that get so many applicants that they can afford to set the passing criteria very high. Almost certainly a waste of time even for the people who could pass that initial hurdle.

I agree with cowman - go check out the small places. The ones that literally have to hang a "Help Wanted" sign in their window.

Do what you have to do. No shame in any of it so long as you stay honest and moral.

I've come to the conclusion that the ATS is a sham, that no one is "qualified", and that the online job positions are not really supposed to be filled by applicants, they are there to satisfy EEOC regs, and in the case of tech jobs, to justify H1Bs.
 
It's expensive - and I've seen a noticeable difference in quality of care facilities, too. My observation is that long term care patients with no insurance get treated very differently than those with LTC insurance.

Indeed! My MIL had long term care insurance and wound up living for 6 months in our MIL suite (which she had built). With 24 hour care givers at ~$14-$15 per hour (which is a dirt cheap rate negotiated by her insurance company, and the rate in no way reflects on the care she was given. Those folks were tremendous!) she was still spending ~$7500/month in addition to the insurance. And she had hospice care for meds, appliances and Dr./nurse visits.

This was in 2005-2006.

John
 
I'd say target smaller businesses where they're still small enough that all the HR is done by one person. Less likely you'll be dealing with automation.

If you have no choice but to apply online, fill up your resume with keywords that will trigger a computer to forward you to a human.

Best advice. I've been in a search for over 3 months and am using my network; gave up early on online apps. Also, recruiters are mostly useless.
 
It's expensive - and I've seen a noticeable difference in quality of care facilities, too. My observation is that long term care patients with no insurance get treated very differently than those with LTC insurance.

Similar observation. Which is why I want to get LTC figured out. Don't want to cause a financial burden to family. Nor rapidly drain all of the savings I've been busting my but to acquire over the years.
 
Drink Scotch? ;)

Prefer Bourbon, Irish, and some Canadian offerings. Some of the up and coming Texas whiskeys too.

And Tom T. Hall's favorite refrain, that helps me explain, I like beer
 
Once upon a time I had a good job in a declining economy. Sadly I destroyed a knee and was off work for extended periods following multiple surgeries. At the same time my company went bust. With my injury status nobody would hire me. I was forced to depend on my best resource. Me. My infant daughter and school teacher wife liked having a place to live and food to eat. That was on me. I never was hired after that. I did odd jobs to get by and eventually sold all I could and borrowed all I could to start my own company. I've never looked back. My experience wasn't easy but my wife and child never went without. A man makes his own luck. Even when everything seems to be stacked against him.

Best wishes.
 
Get off the computer, leave the house, and beat the street until you find a job. Don't do anything else. You'll find one. Screw online applications at major corporations that's a tremendous waste of your time.

Find companies with 100 employees or less. Maybe even 50 employees or less. Those are the best to work for, IMO, and there will be a lot less hiring BS.

What you DO have right now is time. That's your resource. So make damn sure you're spending it effectively. No TV, no fun on the computer, chase your future with your feet.

Just one guy's opinion.
 
Similar observation. Which is why I want to get LTC figured out. Don't want to cause a financial burden to family. Nor rapidly drain all of the savings I've been busting my but to acquire over the years.
After seeing and dealing with it first-hand, we went the LTC route ourselves. I think there are only a couple of companies that offer it, so there isn't a whole lot of competition. It's reasonably straightforward: they guesstimate the annual cost of care, how long you'd live on average while using it, then divide out the number of years from your current age until the numbers say you'd start needing it. That becomes your premium. Adders to the policy for inflation and whatever. For spouses, I think they'll normally stop collecting premiums on both policies when the first spouse starts using the LTC coverage.

Some states (Kansas used to be one until last year) allow you to deduct the cost of LTC premiums from your taxes.

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Don't need to derail David's thread for this - you can PM me if interested in my experience.
 
My company (approx 15,000 employees) received about 250,000 job applications last year. I don't like it either but it's not feasible to go through that many applications.
 
Another "pile on" for leaving the electronic application world behind....

Check with your state's employment agency. Locally, we have the Texas Workforce Commission. Every week, the different offices hold job fairs and have 8-10 employers show wanting to talk with applicants.

I've been there as an employer several times. I don't always get any good candidates, but I have added a few winners to my team from those events.
 
... Stuff about how others are "treating you" (thinly veiled in calling it a societal problem): There's an aspect of this that is "victim goggles". Others can see the blame in your head, without you even realizing that it shows. You'll ooze it. People give off a feel of distrust when they think others are against them and others really do pick up on it.

If you let that repeating message play inside your head while acting happy to someone, you'll still say little things in a way that gives it away. ...
This is critically important wisdom. I have interviewed hundreds of people for jobs over the years and my interviews have evolved to the point where there is only one question that has become a clear disqualifier:

"Tell me about the last place you worked. How did you like the people you worked with? How about your supervisor and the company management?"

There is a concept in psychology called "projection." A psychologist would give you a complicated explanation but my simple takeaway is that we see and expect from other people the behaviors that we ourselves exhibit. This is why, for example, an honest man is the easiest man to cheat.

So when applicants tell me that their co-workers were liars, lazy, idiots, politicians, ass-kissers, .... whatever, they usually project the same things onto their supervisors and company management. The vast majority of the time they are also telling me about themselves. Sometimes not, which I can usually tell when specific examples of bad events are included, but when it is a general blast at the world, which they mostly are, I end the interview fairly quickly.

David, when you say you lost your Fedex job for "stupid reasons that were my fault" I wonder how you would answer my qualifying question.

On a positive note, I agree with the many who have encouraged you to talk to smaller companies. I also agree with the comments on networking -- particularly among pilots and aviation-savvy people. If I am Joe Blow hiring supervisor I assign no value to your CFI because I don't understand it. I assign a little value to your Aviation Management degree because it is a degree but I don't understand that one either. Your win probability is higher at places where the hiring supervisor understands the effort and skills involved in your accomplishments.

Lots of good advice here. A few people who don't understand that most of life is about luck, but don't worry about them. Before most of us here had pooped in our first diaper, we had already won the lottery. American, white, middle class, parents who valued and could pay for education, ... It's a tough world out there. No matter how hard the garbage picker in Delhi works and no matter how smart he is, he will never be the president of General Motors. Said another way, luck is a necessary but not sufficient precursor to success. Good luck!
 
I have been unemployed for just a touch over 2 months now and have filled out many online applications for various jobs that I reasonably thought I could get that don't require tons of training or special education.

I am a part-time CFI and cannot live on it nor can I move for a better CFI job due to family issues.

About 45 minutes ago I got done applying to Time Warner Cable for a Field Technician position. I was a cable installer for another company in 2008-2009 so I thought I would have no issues getting hired. I spent over an hour and probably 30 mins or so doing the online application and their assessment tests. 15 mins or so after I was done I got an email saying they were not going to consider me any further and there were others more qualified. It also said it was an automated email. At 1930 hours, I am quite sure no human even looked at my app.

Rewind about a month and a half ago. I applied to the post office for a mindless sorter operator job that was even seasonal. After three or so hours of assessments, I was informed via automated email that I was not qualified and could not retake the tests for 6 months.

Every time there is some type of assessment I do not qualify and am not told why. These "tests" always say they have no right or wrong answers generally. I am not sure what I am doing wrong but each and every time I apply and get rejected this way, I feel even more devalued as a human being.

My Veteran status and Bachelor's degree don't matter either. I have a degree in Aviation Management and jobs I should be able to get into want 3-5 years of experience. I have found lately that nearly half of the entry level jobs I see in any job title want 6 months to a year of experience. So even entry-level is not entry-level.

It looks like all I can get is fast food or a crap warehouse job for the rest of my life. I was working at Fedex Express as a courier and lost my job there for stupid reasons that were my fault. I was just starting to feel some sense of security and moved out of my Mom's house and bought a new motorcycle this past summer. I guess I will be punished for this for the rest of my life. I cannot wait to checkout at the end. Even oblivion has to be better than how people treat each other in this country. I am 43 so I have a long time to suffer yet.

No this is not a suicide note, just FYI. I just need to rant some.

I cannot afford to rent my apartment after January and I will be exhausting my savings soon as I did not qualify for unemployment. I will have no choice but to move back in with my Mom for the 3rd time and quit paying certain bills and trash my credit.

Most of the last 8 years since I have been out of the Navy have been miserable going from one job to the next and going to college and flying for a living. The 2008 economy was when I got my CFI and it kept me from making it work by nearly bankrupting me.

Those of you that are well off should be thankful. There is a crowd of old pilots that I see occasionally at the airport where I teach that are so full of themselves, prejudiced and financially well-off that they take their lives for granted and ***** about everything going on in the world and that they are the solution to all the country's problems. They talk about flying their airplanes but let them sit while I have to get people to pay me to fly so that I can do so.

So far, it looks like Social Security, if it is there for me when I turn 67, will be plenty of money for me to live on based on today's dollars. But I have to suffer till then.

Done ranting now.

David

Those psych profiles/behavioral analyses ALWAYS have a right answer. Even though they lie. The proper answer would be the one Ward or June Cleaver would answer if tested.

And this.. is where you learn the value of networking. Knowing somebody will get your app looked at TODAY instead of reviewed by a computer.
 
I remember those computer tests... One of the questions was "Everyone is occasionally late to their scheduled shift." I "somewhat agreed" . During the interview, I was asked to explain what I meant. I was then informed that when answering these types of questions you should answer what you think in an ideal world. I got the job and loved it, but it does bother me a little bit that if you answer too many questions the wrong way, they toss your app automatically.

Every job I had after that one has been for a small business. Life is so much easier in small business. Most of them provide an opportunity to advance as fast as you want. What I mean by this is that if you show you are dedicated to the growth of the company, you control your own destiny. If you bring in more business you are more than likely going to receive a raise.

In a few months I will be leaving my position with my present employer and relocating to the Dallas area. It really sucks because I love what I do and where I work. I have a job lined up and am excited about the opportunities that await. If it wasn't for my current position and developing contacts in the industry this would be far more difficult. It all started with me applying for a position as a Line Tech at the local FBO.
 
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In a few months I will be leaving my position with my present employer and relocating to the Dallas area. It really sucks because I love what I do and where I work. I have a job lined up and am excited about the opportunities that await. If it wasn't for my current position and developing contacts in the industry this would be far more difficult. It all started with me applying for a position as a Line Tech at the local FBO.

What is the new job going to be/entail?
 
Flight coordination for a corporate flight department.
 
Currently I am the GM of an FBO. In the last year, we have increased net profit from 20K to nearly $250,000. It is a real accomplishment that makes me proud of my team. It is amazing what can be accomplished when your employees are empowered.
 
Currently I am the GM of an FBO. In the last year, we have increased net profit from 20K to nearly $250,000. It is a real accomplishment that makes me proud of my team. It is amazing what can be accomplished when your employees are empowered.


That is quite a turnaround...... Congrats...:thumbsup:
 
She is indecisive and would rather jsut watch tv than make hard decisions. I think she will eventually be medically forced out of the house before she makes up her mind.

She is fairly good health but hardly drives any more and she has to really, really, really want to do something before she will make herself do it, such as going to the store, getting her glasses adjusted and so forth. Getting her to leave the house is not an easy chore.

David

Best of luck with your mom. It is hard to convince someone to change their ingrained behaviors/habits.
 
Ok, I'll fess up.

My first job is to paint the little colored eyes and whiskers on the fly-fishing lures.

My second job is to test those plastic squirt guns that kids buy.

My third job is to make custom throw pillows out of dryer lint.

My fourth job is bending the bendy straws and stuffing them into those cute little baggies.
 

I was denied after completing a 45 min online application and submitting my DOB, SSN, Address, Mother's Maiden Name, and promise to turn over my first born.

I don't know anyone in the stuffing bidniz either. I'll see if there any old guys at the airport that know anyone.

I'll miss my first born, but hey, we'll just count is as practice for the second. :yikes:
 
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