I crashed (airplane total loss)

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Exceeded VNE in a dive--right wing snapped during the pull out. Estimated altitude: 2-300 ft. Direct nose down impact into cement.

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The wreckage looks a lot better than I'd expect from your description!

Good thing the pilot was not in the aircraft at the time.
 
Jesse, If you're trying to scare folks with a thread title... Ya did good! :p

It's Styrofoam. Be a good modeler and build with wood! :)
 
At the Great State of Maine Airshow, today at NAS Brunswick, our EAA Chapter 87 table in the huge Hangar 5 was beside the Brunswick Aero Modelers Club. There were some terrific items, either on display or evidenced via photographs. One fellow had replicas(large) of the Mohawk Airlines DC-3 planes. He showed photos of some which had crashed(and subsequent restoration).

I asked him, "Do you cry easily?" He relied that he always lets someone else fly the maiden flight of a new creation.

HR(and he had a couple aircraft that would carry a topside glider aloft. The glider, when released, would be flown by a separate radio control)
 
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Oh no, Jesse now we will not be able to do aerial combat with our model airplanes!

You should have filed a flight plan :p
 
the news paper will tell of how the EXPERIMENTAL plane crashed and didnt file a flight plan!
 
At approximately 1410 Central time, a Piper Super Cub sustained damage following a high speed descent. The pilot was not injured. Visual conditions prevailed. A flight plan was not on file.

The pilot held a private pilot's certificate. His body was not found at the wreckage.

During a high speed descent, the pilot reported the plane was in excess of Vne. In the descent, the right wing separated from the fuselage. The plane became uncontrollable at this point, and impacted the ground at significant speed. The plane was recovered from the crash site, all parts of it were recovered.

The log books were unavailable for inspection. As such, no maintenance records could be verified.

The cause of this accident has been determined to be: Stupid pilot trick.
 
Lawreston said:
He relied that he always lets someone else fly the maiden flight of a new creation.
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Hey Harley,

Next Saturday and Sunday is the Maine Jet Rally at Sanford. I plan to be there with a friend who is flying a brand new, just finished model. This is an impressive show. Maybe you can stop by.

Gil
 
that doen't look too bad. I think some duct tape, superglue, and a 377 will have you back in the air in no time. They may issue a spar AD in the future, so pay attention to that :)
 
Tragic. My thoughts are with you.







:D
 
vontresc said:
that doen't look too bad. I think some duct tape, superglue, and a 377 will have you back in the air in no time. They may issue a spar AD in the future, so pay attention to that :)
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Ooh, better yet, he probably didn't comply with the pre-existing spar AD. ;)
 
Jesse, Don't be planning any backcountry flying out in my area if you are crashing airplanes like that. Bob :no:
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Ooh, better yet, he probably didn't comply with the pre-existing spar AD. ;)
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If you look close, you'll notice that he complied with the NO spar AD. Therein likely lies the problem...along with trivial stuff like pointing at the ground and exceeding Vne.

Total loss? That just means you gave up wrenching too soon...
 
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fgcason said:
If you look close, you'll notice that he complied with the NO spar AD. Therein likely lies the problem...along with trivial stuff like pointing at the ground and exceeding Vne...
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He needed a Pitts. I heard a Pitts aerobatic pilot say he can aim it straight down and not get to VNe.
 
WAITAMINUTE! I can see that's one of dem planes where the wing is attached with a rubber band. Doesn't it come with a spare wing?

A little Gorrila glue...
 
It'd be hard to repair that well. The engine mount, servo mounts, fuselage, wing, and motor itself are all junk. I'll order the parts soon--it was a $100 crash.
 
TeenDoc said:
Hey Harley,

Next Saturday and Sunday is the Maine Jet Rally at Sanford. I plan to be there with a friend who is flying a brand new, just finished model. This is an impressive show. Maybe you can stop by.

Gil
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E-mail me more information and, perhaps, your cell phone #. I might be able to attend.

HR
 
Come on Jesse, you should see some of the wrecks I've rebuilt. :blueplane:Ok maybe that foamy is a bit worse, like totaled. Quick fix, buy a new one, and you have a few spare parts. I have one that has it's original tail feathers, but is on the trird wing. :eek:
 
Half a roll of duct tape and you'll be fine. That looks a lot like what happened to my model plane when I let Tony take the first flight...
 
Jesse, that looks like a rather light weight park flyer. How does (did) it handle in the breeze. When I was in OK I got one and it lasted all of 2 battery cycle before a gust caught it and produced a similar result.
 
AWACSEng said:
Jesse, that looks like a rather light weight park flyer. How does (did) it handle in the breeze. When I was in OK I got one and it lasted all of 2 battery cycle before a gust caught it and produced a similar result.
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It actually has some weight to it. I've flown it in 15 knots. It's not *fun* flying in that wind and the drastic changes in ground speed is somewhat stressful..But the airplane itself handles it fine.
 
15 kts in OK is a calm day. I think it was more in the area of 20G30 on the day I tried. Foolish, but it was fun...for a while.
 
AWACSEng said:
15 kts in OK is a calm day. I think it was more in the area of 20G30 on the day I tried. Foolish, but it was fun...for a while.
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Figure out the scale speed on that and you'll know quick why you crashed. You really need almost near calm winds for any RC airplane to be fun.
 
jesse said:
Figure out the scale speed on that and you'll know quick why you crashed. You really need almost near calm winds for any RC airplane to be fun.
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I knew distance measurements scale when you modeling, but do wind speeds really get scaled too?
 
Greebo said:
I knew distance measurements scale when you modeling, but do wind speeds really get scaled too?
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Sure, in a way, think of it like this. (scale isn't the best word)

If the airplane has a 7 knot final approach speed and encounters a 10 knot gust that is a 142% increase in airspeed. Thrust equals drag in unaccelerated flight. Suddenly your drag just increased dramatically along with your lift. It'll work itself out in short time (still only have enough thrust for 7 knots of drag) so you'll slow down to 7 knots which means the airplane is moving backwards. Now if that 10 knot gust goes away you're in a world of ****. Stall, recover, and continue to try to land. Luckily stall recovery only takes about a foot.

If your Cessna with a 65 knot final approach speed encountered a 142% gust that would equate to a 92 knot gust. Imagine would it would be like to be sitting in a Cessna on final and out of nowhere a 92 knot gust hits the airplane. Imagine what would happen shortly after that when that gust disappeared. Think micro-burst.

A lot of stuff happens smaller in RC. I can do a full stall from 10 feet and recover just fine. I often enter spins at about telephone poll height with a recovery happening at about 5 feet.
 
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