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.....LA Basin residents do it? I could not possibly stand the constant traffic congestion and throngs of people all the time. I swear it is total insanity. The countryside is beautiful, if you can find somewhere that isn't built on. My daughter says the weather is usually great, but I'm not seeing it this week.

Man, I'll be glad to go home.
 
Hey. Rush hour only last weekdays from 6:30 am - 9:30 & 2:30 pm - 6:00 pm. And a few issues on the 101, most of the 5 (rush hour, midday & weekends), parts of the 110, the 710, and the legendary 405. Other then that traffic is ok. :D
 
When I was there I drove a truck. Even at 65 mph I was like a rock flowing backwards upstream in the current of traffic. In the words of Bill Cosby, "Go around, idiot!"

Books on tape or some favorite music CDs do the trick. Serenity now.
 
I managed to find the answer.

It involved driving east for three days.

All better.
 
Hey. Rush hour only last weekdays from 6:30 am - 9:30 & 2:30 pm - 6:00 pm. And a few issues on the 101, most of the 5 (rush hour, midday & weekends), parts of the 110, the 710, and the legendary 405. Other then that traffic is ok. :D
Around Burbank, Universal City, and parts around. Drove around Long Beach and Huntington Beach and back one day. Drove to Ventura and back another day. The trip to the Channel Islands was nice. Very few people, although cold and rainy the first part of the day. Now I get to travel all day to get back home late at night and get up early to go to work.

Man, the things we do to help and visit with our kids.
 
Oh, don't be so quick to jump on the boo-LA bandwagon. You'd've been jealous had you caught it on a typical sunny day...
 
I agree. Nuts.

Then again, living around NYC is nuts too.

Plus, try getting into Philadelphia at any time other than 2am. Always a backup wherever you are.

Chicago? Ack!!

Cities suk.
 
As I read this I was looking out at my pond and across the corn field... How you folks can live in those cities is vastly beyond me...

denny-o
 
Around Burbank, Universal City, and parts around.

That explains it. Those hills kind of splits the LA area. There aren't even any viable alternates either due to terrain. I've even heard stories of people not wanting to date someone across those hills. The phrase we have is "geographically undesirable".:yesnod:
 
I would take LA over Chicago any day. Traffic here sux all the time too, but we get bitter cold or rain all the time. At least in LA the wx is nicer. Of course SD has it all over LA.
 
I would take LA over Chicago any day. Traffic here sux all the time too, but we get bitter cold or rain all the time. At least in LA the wx is nicer. Of course SD has it all over LA.

Don't forget about the illegals. Right now due to the state of the economy many have gone back south. As soon as the economy rebounds they will be back in force. They really bring a lot of bad with them and run down the areas that they live in.
 
There, fixed it for ya.

:D
Yeah, I actually considered that sentence carefully. The Blue Route, 611, 309, 95, they're all slow all the time it seems. At least when I need to get into the city. But the Schuylkill, yeah, that takes the cake in a very bad way.
 
Don't forget about the illegals. Right now due to the state of the economy many have gone back south. As soon as the economy rebounds they will be back in force. They really bring a lot of bad with them and run down the areas that they live in.
Huge amount of them in the Chicago area as well. There is no escape.
 
Ah, the relative peace and quiet of the Amish Country..... Finally back home after mechanical delays cause another flight to steal our aircraft in Houston. Had to wait over three more hours to get another aircraft and crew. Rolled in to BWI around 0130. Got home around 0330. Got up next morning and went to work. Life is good.

Really wished I could have taken Twinkie, but he would have taken a lot longer and cost a fortune. Can't compete with the aluminum tubes for that long a haul.

Back to reasonably normal life for a while. (If I can just get the horror of LA out of my mind.)
 
Unless you don't mind living in a huge city, don't live in LA. I'd still rather live in LA than other big cities like NYC, though, because you don't have to drive for that long to get to the country side. Big Bear is a good example for LA. Almost 7000' elevation, beautiful scenery, and a breathtaking drive from LA.

But if you don't like the big cities, you'll find that the vast majority of CA is pretty sparsely populated. Especially the best parts, like Marin and Sonoma.

-Felix
 
LA sux the big one. When I used to go there I only did it on motorcycle to get through the never ending traffic. Worse than the pollution are the denizens. Everyone I met there either dyed their hair a weird color or had some surgical alteration to affect their appearance. All anyone seemed to care about were their clothes or their car. Trans Am mentality to the max!

San Diego was nice while I lived there, but my last visit suggested to me that it had been LA'd out and was nice no more. The wx is mighty fine, but it would do me no good since I couldn't afford an aircraft there. Personally, I think a spot of bad weather is good for the soul.
 
The pollution is nothing like it used to be. We got rid of the brown cloud over downtown years ago. I'm happy with our current air quality. Though funny thing is a few ppl I've taken above the smog haze layer get sleepy instantly. Almost like withdrawal or something. ;)
 
Flying GA cross country is a blast and should be done at some point. The problem is figuring out when that point is. It's not cheap.

Hopefully you can take the Twinkie out there some time!
 
Flying GA cross country is a blast and should be done at some point. The problem is figuring out when that point is. It's not cheap.

Hopefully you can take the Twinkie out there some time!

I really want to, but the time and expense make it an undesirable trip for the copilot. I am not even sure I could handle sitting in that seat for that long a period of time. Maybe after the auto-pilot gets fixed I will talk the copilot into a round about leisurely trip stopping at various places for some sight-seeing. Right now, 4 hours is about my limit in that seat. The back starts to hurt much longer than that.
 
I really want to, but the time and expense make it an undesirable trip for the copilot. I am not even sure I could handle sitting in that seat for that long a period of time. Maybe after the auto-pilot gets fixed I will talk the copilot into a round about leisurely trip stopping at various places for some sight-seeing. Right now, 4 hours is about my limit in that seat. The back starts to hurt much longer than that.

Yeah. Funny about that. All my pilot friends thought it was cool that I flew to the West Coast and back. My wife thought it was silly.
 
sba55 said:
I'd still rather live in LA than other big cities like NYC, though, because you don't have to drive for that long to get to the country side. Big Bear is a good example for LA. Almost 7000' elevation, beautiful scenery, and a breathtaking drive from LA.
You used NYC as a comparison and obviously you haven't been there.
One hour outside of NYC and you're out in the countryside.
Bear Mountain State Park = less then one hour.
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sba55 said:
But if you don't like the big cities, you'll find that the vast majority of CA is pretty sparsely populated.
-Felix
New York State is 95% Country / 5% City.

I once met a man at the Chino airport that told me Chino was Gods country, when I asked him where his travels had taken him he said he had never traveled outside of SoCal.
It's too bad he didn't cause he would have discovered that our country is full of beautiful places that would be considered Gods Country.


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You used NYC as a comparison and obviously you haven't been there.
Lived there for two years, actually. Sure, you can drive out of the city, but you're not going to be in the middle of nowhere anywhere in that area within an hour. Or 3. The entire east coast corridor is much more populated than the deserts of CA. I shouldn't have said "out in the country" - maybe "closest human at least 20 miles away" would have been better.

Of course, LA isn't the most extreme example, that's why I mentioned Marin/Sonoma. It's quite amazing how you can be in SF, then cross the GG bridge and be in complete solitude in just 30 minutes.

Back on topic: I flew from Palm Springs to LA a year ago. As I crossed the mountains into the LA valley, there was a very distinctive cloud of smoke right at the edge of the mountains. It went from visibility unlimited to visibility 5 NM.

-Felix
 
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Lived there for two years, actually. Sure, you can drive out of the city, but you're not going to be in the middle of nowhere anywhere in that area within an hour. Or 3. The entire east coast corridor is much more populated than the deserts of CA. I shouldn't have said "out in the country" - maybe "closest human at least 20 miles away" would have been better.

Not true. Why do I suspect you lived there like you own(ed) the P-Baron? :rolleyes:
 
I really want to, but the time and expense make it an undesirable trip for the copilot. I am not even sure I could handle sitting in that seat for that long a period of time. Maybe after the auto-pilot gets fixed I will talk the copilot into a round about leisurely trip stopping at various places for some sight-seeing. Right now, 4 hours is about my limit in that seat. The back starts to hurt much longer than that.

Yeah, the best way to do a trip like that anyway is not non-stop hauling, it's making stops and enjoying the trip. However sticking to 4 hour days you can pretty easily get to a bunch of interesting places.
 
Lived there for two years, actually. Sure, you can drive out of the city, but you're not going to be in the middle of nowhere anywhere in that area within an hour. Or 3. The entire east coast corridor is much more populated than the deserts of CA. I shouldn't have said "out in the country" - maybe "closest human at least 20 miles away" would have been better.

An hour may be pushing it, but 3 hours you certainly can be "in the middle of nowhere. I used to live in Putnam County and commuted in to the City every day (Metro North). It was about 1:15 by train to Grand Central. The house was on 2 acres, backed up to state parkland. Another hour or so and one could easily be in the Catskills. Heck, from the city, Del Water Gap was well within 2 hours.

Granted an hour at rush hour won't get you very far (although the commute by car for me was just over an hour, if I had to drive), but outside of rush hour, one could be pretty far out in the country in a couple of hours.
 
The difference is if the car breaks down in the middle of upstate New York you'll likely survive the experience. If it does so in the middle of the desert you may not.
 
I'd trust my plane before my car, but that's me.
 
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