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Hello everyone. This might sound stupid, but I’m freaking out right now about some things I’ve done in the past, and I would really appreciate some advice.
I hold a Medical Class 1 certificate, and I have never had any significant medical history. I’ve never been hospitalized, never received a psychiatric diagnosis, and I don’t take any medication.
More than five years ago, I tried drugs once at a nightclub with a friend. I had a bad reaction that night and remember hallucinating. After that, I never used drugs again. At the time, I was very ignorant about mental health, and I somehow convinced myself that if someone hallucinated after taking drugs, it meant they had schizophrenia or psychosis.
Because of that misunderstanding, I started telling some friends that I had schizophrenia when they asked me about going out or taking drugs. I would say that I could never do drugs again because I thought I had schizophrenia based on that one experience.
A couple of years ago, I started dating a girl, and we had a similar conversation. I told her that I thought I had schizophrenia, and she explained that I was simply misinformed and that experiencing hallucinations after taking drugs does not automatically mean someone has schizophrenia. We stayed together until last week, when we broke up. Unfortunately, the breakup has not gone well.
She has now threatened to send screenshots of our conversations to the FAA, claiming that I have schizophrenia and psychosis, particularly the messages where I said that I have schizophrenia.
The problem is that I have never actually been diagnosed with schizophrenia, psychosis, or any other psychiatric condition. I was simply ignorant at the time and misunderstood what happened to me that night.
My question is: if she actually reports this to the FAA, would they take those messages seriously? Would they assume I have schizophrenia or psychosis based solely on text messages, or would they ask for medical records, an evaluation, or other evidence? Could this potentially have consequences for my Class 1 medical certificate?
I also want to mention that I never declared the drug use because it happened only once, more than five years ago before my medical, and I have never used drugs again.
i also never failed a drug test
I’m really stressed about this situation and would appreciate any informed advice or experiences from people who understand FAA medical certification.
Flying means a lot to me, and I’ve worked extremely hard to get where I am, so I’m terrified that something I text years ago out of ignorance could jeopardize everything I’ve worked for.
 
Would be a shame if some freak accident just happened to destroy her phone. ;)

If it did get that far, you'd probably, at minimum, be required to undergo a psych evaluation. Outcome would be hinged upon what the evaluator determines.
 
People mistaken believe they might have a lot of things. I suppose you could go for medical evaluation to determine you don’t, which is what you should have done when you thought you did.
 
So, you need to decide whether you lied to the AME or lied to your ex. Both are in writing, and the statements that you made to both cannot simultaneously be true.

Lawyer up. You need a criminal attorney to help deal with the ex (cease-and-desist and or restraining order), and an aviation attorney in case you end up dealing with the FAA on this issue.

Finally, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot were you thinking? Drugs and a Class 1 medical do not mix. Seems like incredibly poor judgement to me, followed closely by the incredibly poor judgement of discussing with anyone else - in writing, no less.

:mad2:

:popcorn:
 
First off, you dodged a bullet by ending a relationship with a person who has retaliatory tendencies.

Second, you need legal advice NOW. Statements of that nature, that are in writing, are not going to be viewed positively. You will most likely be ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation to determine whether or not the claims are true.
 
You may have a bunch of hoops to jump through with the FAA regardless, and you'll need to get that worked out. That's not obvious to me though just from what you wrote, since as far as we know you aren't actually schizophrenic and you took the drugs only once and (maybe?) years before applying for a medical.

I told her that I thought I had schizophrenia, and she explained that I was simply misinformed and that experiencing hallucinations after taking drugs does not automatically mean someone has schizophrenia.
But this part requires immediate attention. If she doesn't actually believe you have schizophrenia but tells the FAA that you do, that just might be libel. I would suggest you consult with an attorney in your jurisdiction ASAFP and try to get ahead of her telling anything to the FAA. If you wait until after, well, you'll definitely be screwed.

On a side note, the fact that she's threatening you with this and not just doing this suggests she still wants something from you. Try to figure out what that is. An apology, maybe?
 
Are you sure about that???

Respectfully,
E. Schrodinger
Only if a cat was involved.

Can't add to how to get you out of this hole, but good reminder to all not to get into a hole. And seems like you haven't done drugs since that time, so good for you for not continuing to be stupid.

1) Been discussed, but don't do drugs.
2) If you've been stupid, OBSTAIN from POSTING and FACEBOOK. Why would you tell folks about being stupid? It puzzles me that people will choose to get a dopamine hit from having likes and reactions to something you text or post and completely ignore tomorrow or let alone the future.

Not a doctor, but hallucinating after taking drugs is sort of the point of taking drugs. The only question on illegal drugs in Med Express appears to be question N which is "In the past 2 years", and you stated this all happened 5 years before you got your class 1. So... you didn't lie to your AME. But now you just have to possibly deal with the FAA to prove a negative, that you weren't schizophrenic, etc., despite that fact there is no medical evidence you ever were.

Net Net - you have a posting / texting problem more than a drug problem. If you're on Facebook, twitter, etc., STOP POSTING. Go Amish. Nothing good can come of it. I actually make it a habit to not post on Facebook except the occasional banter, and I especially don't text or post anything - even here - about my health.



Best of luck.
 
This falls under "doctors common pet peeves about patients." I can't tell you how many patients have walked into my office with internet/social media self diagnosis in hand. WTF. The problem isn't necessarily that you tried a drug 5 years ago. And the problem isn't some crazy GF. Getting a lawyer to try to intimidate your exGF probably not the way to go. I mean the GF is only threatening to show the FAA the texts YOU sent her. Now it seems like the GF thinks that it wasn't really schizophrenia. But what does she know!!! Unless she's a psychiatrist. Showing the texts to the FAA hardly qualifies as libel, slander, since, well, YOU thought you had schizophrenia...

Bad breakup aside, if my neighbor casually told me is is/was/wants to be a commercial pilot and has schizophrenia, well, yeah, I'd be calling the FAA hotline too!! This is one of those slam dunk you can't fly diagnosis. And the problem is, occasionally drug use can precipitate psychosis/schizophrenia. So yeah, a bit of a mess to clean up.
 
So, you need to decide whether you lied to the AME or lied to your ex. Both are in writing, and the statements that you made to both cannot simultaneously be true.

Lawyer up. You need a criminal attorney to help deal with the ex (cease-and-desist and or restraining order), and an aviation attorney in case you end up dealing with the FAA on this issue.

Finally, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot were you thinking? Drugs and a Class 1 medical do not mix. Seems like incredibly poor judgement to me, followed closely by the incredibly poor judgement of discussing with anyone else - in writing, no less.

:mad2:

:popcorn:

I didn’t lie to AME. I told the truth. I don’t mix drugs with Class 1 , and I am clean. The drug use happened only once, five years before I completed my first medical. I have been honest about my history and have not used drugs since. I dont even drink alcohol
 
We've seen a few posts like this before, I'm curious if the FAA actually does anything in these instances. There are numerous websites where you can generate fake text message screenshots and given that it's coming from an ex... you really have to question the competency of anyone who would take that seriously. Maybe bureaucratic rules require them to but even then discretion is surely a thing.



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So, you need to decide whether you lied to the AME or lied to your ex. Both are in writing, and the statements that you made to both cannot simultaneously be true.

Lawyer up. You need a criminal attorney to help deal with the ex (cease-and-desist and or restraining order), and an aviation attorney in case you end up dealing with the FAA on this issue.

Finally, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot were you thinking? Drugs and a Class 1 medical do not mix. Seems like incredibly poor judgement to me, followed closely by the incredibly poor judgement of discussing with anyone else - in writing, no less.

:mad2:

:popcorn:
If I'm reading his post correctly, the one time use incident occurred before he ever held an aeromedical certificate.
 
This falls under "doctors common pet peeves about patients." I can't tell you how many patients have walked into my office with internet/social media self diagnosis in hand. WTF. The problem isn't necessarily that you tried a drug 5 years ago. And the problem isn't some crazy GF. Getting a lawyer to try to intimidate your exGF probably not the way to go. I mean the GF is only threatening to show the FAA the texts YOU sent her. Now it seems like the GF thinks that it wasn't really schizophrenia. But what does she know!!! Unless she's a psychiatrist. Showing the texts to the FAA hardly qualifies as libel, slander, since, well, YOU thought you had schizophrenia...

Bad breakup aside, if my neighbor casually told me is is/was/wants to be a commercial pilot and has schizophrenia, well, yeah, I'd be calling the FAA hotline too!! This is one of those slam dunk you can't fly diagnosis. And the problem is, occasionally drug use can precipitate psychosis/schizophrenia. So yeah, a bit of a mess to clean up.
Lawyers' common pet peeves similarly relate to people giving/getting legal advice on social media.
 
Glad she's your ex!

I would never write, text or otherwise have a copy... But if you see her again, just mention that she does know the FAA is a Federal Agency. Since you really don't have schizophrenia, if she gives them false information about a pilot, that would be a federal offence.

Is the above true???? Doesn't matter. :D
 
Glad she's your ex!

I would never write, text or otherwise have a copy... But if you see her again, just mention that she does know the FAA is a Federal Agency. Since you really don't have schizophrenia, if she gives them false information about a pilot, that would be a federal offence.

Is the above true???? Doesn't matter. :D
Not to mention you're going to turn around and sue her for reimbursement of every single penny you have to spend to satisfy the FAA.
 
You shouldn't lie to women to get your way, do better. Suggest being her best friend
 
I feel like we’ve seen this same scenario at least once already this year. I guess these things happen more often than I suspected and is the reason the hot/crazy matrix exists.
 
I feel like we’ve seen this same scenario at least once already this year. I guess these things happen more often than I suspected and is the reason the hot/crazy matrix exists.
Trust me she is way above the crazy line and she is not even a 5 hot
 
This falls under "doctors common pet peeves about patients." I can't tell you how many patients have walked into my office with internet/social media self diagnosis in hand. WTF. The problem isn't necessarily that you tried a drug 5 years ago. And the problem isn't some crazy GF. Getting a lawyer to try to intimidate your exGF probably not the way to go. I mean the GF is only threatening to show the FAA the texts YOU sent her. Now it seems like the GF thinks that it wasn't really schizophrenia. But what does she know!!! Unless she's a psychiatrist. Showing the texts to the FAA hardly qualifies as libel, slander, since, well, YOU thought you had schizophrenia...

Bad breakup aside, if my neighbor casually told me is is/was/wants to be a commercial pilot and has schizophrenia, well, yeah, I'd be calling the FAA hotline too!! This is one of those slam dunk you can't fly diagnosis. And the problem is, occasionally drug use can precipitate psychosis/schizophrenia. So yeah, a bit of a mess to clean up.
Yes, that’s what happened to me. After using the drug that night and hallucinating, I Googled it and ignorantly self-diagnosed myself with schizophrenia because I didn’t even understand what schizophrenia meant lol. But after that incident, I was completely fine and never experienced hallucinations or anything similar while sober. I’ve never had any mental health problems or needed medication.

So now the worst-case outcome is that I have to go through a psychiatric assessment they’re not just going to revoke my medical and that’s it lol. And I’m not trying to sue her or anything; I just want to move on and have no more contact with her. She’s f**** crazy.
 
Not to mention you're going to turn around and sue her for reimbursement of every single penny you have to spend to satisfy the FAA.
I also did some research, and apparently the FAA won’t tell you who reported you. So without knowing who actually made the report, there’s really no way for me to prove it was her anyway.
 
Guys, the problem is that he seems to be admitting he sent these texts, so threatening to sue her likely isn't the way to go. I mean, he could try the "cowman defense," deny everything and go all scorched earth on his ex. But if he really did send texts along those lines and all she is doing is forwarding the actual texts to the FAA, well that may or may not end well. Perhaps it's best to just talk to an aviation lawyer and HIMS AME for advice.

I mean, or, well, um, our advice is the bomb and is free o_O
 
Oh yeah - do not text her, speak to her, speak of her. Let your lawyer do any talking. Do not contact her. Don't talk about her to anyone. Don't put anything is writing about her.

Did I mention "STOP TEXTING AND POSTING"??
 
If it comes to it- HIMS psychiatrist to sort it out.
I don't see how this is going to work out well....OP needs to look up the 15 specifically disqualifying medical conditions.
 
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Trust me she is way above the crazy line and she is not even a 5 hot
You missed the point. Your scenario of crazy ex goes to FAA hotline isn’t unusual. Your statement around the use of drugs and self-diagnosing a mental health condition that is disqualifying isn’t unusual. Not including that information on an FAA medical isn’t unusual. Getting reported via the FAA hotline isn’t unusual.

Unringing all those bells may be possible, but the internet isn’t really the expertise you need for that.
 
If it comes to it- HIMS psychiatrist to sort it out.
I don't see how this is going to work out well....OP needs to look up the 15 specifically disqualifying medical conditions.
I understand that psychosis or schizophrenia can be disqualifying, but could a single text message I sent to my girlfriend really be enough to have my medical revoked? I’m willing to undergo a psychiatric assessment or whatever evaluation is necessary to clarify the situation. I just want to know if I have options. Also should i report this situation by my self or just live with the stress until she report me
 
Only if a cat was involved.

Can't add to how to get you out of this hole, but good reminder to all not to get into a hole. And seems like you haven't done drugs since that time, so good for you for not continuing to be stupid.

1) Been discussed, but don't do drugs.
2) If you've been stupid, OBSTAIN from POSTING and FACEBOOK. Why would you tell folks about being stupid? It puzzles me that people will choose to get a dopamine hit from having likes and reactions to something you text or post and completely ignore tomorrow or let alone the future.

Not a doctor, but hallucinating after taking drugs is sort of the point of taking drugs. The only question on illegal drugs in Med Express appears to be question N which is "In the past 2 years", and you stated this all happened 5 years before you got your class 1. So... you didn't lie to your AME. But now you just have to possibly deal with the FAA to prove a negative, that you weren't schizophrenic, etc., despite that fact there is no medical evidence you ever were.

Net Net - you have a posting / texting problem more than a drug problem. If you're on Facebook, twitter, etc., STOP POSTING. Go Amish. Nothing good can come of it. I actually make it a habit to not post on Facebook except the occasional banter, and I especially don't text or post anything - even here - about my health.



Best of luck.
I learned my lesson, trust me. I was young at the time, and an aviation career wasn’t even part of my plans. I’m also not a medical expert, so I honestly don’t know how something like this is evaluated.

Do you think this is something I could potentially sort out through a proper psychiatric assessment? I’m trying to understand what my options would be if this ever came to the FAA’s attention. Is there a process where I could provide an assessment and explain the circumstances, or would that be the end of the road for me?

I’m asking online for now because I don’t want to open a can of worms if it isn’t necessary. But if this is something that could actually affect my medical, I’d rather know my options and, if necessary, report the incident myself and deal with it properly.
 
Also apologize to the girl. it’ll save u time money and aggravation. and costs u nothi g

I don’t really want to go into the details, but I genuinely don’t believe I did anything wrong. It would be humiliating for me to apologize for something I don’t feel I did wrong, and honestly, even if I apologized, I’m worried she might still report it if she really wanted to.
 
Who cares if u did anything wrong. For whatever reason she’s hurt and apologizing will make it better. be strategic. pride is one of the seven deadly sins. she may report u anyway. but at least she will feel better and so will u. and it may work.
 
It's not possible to give medical advice or legal advice specific to you. So you should seek specific medical and legal advice.

Having said the usual disclaimers, if you just had hallucinations in the context of drug use, and NO other symptoms, this would not typically be diagnosed as psychosis or schizophrenia. You had drug induced hallucinations 5 years ago. Your texts aren't proof you have schizophrenia or were psychotic, only that you thought so. And your exGF's opinion does not count as a medical diagnosis.

But you thought so and didn't report it. Still the FAA can't accuse you of lying about a condition you don't actually have. And I would think you don't have to report a condition that you erroneously thought you had but don't...Assuming you don't...so the whole thing is a bit irregular and awkward.

As a physician, it's inherently hard for me to recommend you see an attorney in addition to HIMS...;). Having said that, I think this is a case where you should see one for a consultation and carefully consider his/her counsel. Should you see a HIMS AME first? I guess an argument could be made either way. But, I would definitely not just "wait until something happens." Anonymous tips to the FAA often don't go well.
 
I don’t really want to go into the details, but I genuinely don’t believe I did anything wrong. It would be humiliating for me to apologize for something I don’t feel I did wrong, and honestly, even if I apologized, I’m worried she might still report it if she really wanted to.
Dude. Grow up.
 
I don’t really want to go into the details, but I genuinely don’t believe I did anything wrong. It would be humiliating for me to apologize for something I don’t feel I did wrong, and honestly, even if I apologized, I’m worried she might still report it if she really wanted to.
Do you want to continue to fly, or not? What's it worth to you? How will you feel about these decisions 5 years from now?
 
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