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gkainz

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Got back into reloading recently (just in time for all the components to become unavailable).

First set of loads for my ruger p90 .45

Take away lesson is only shoot 4 round groups since every group has a flyer! :) I'm going to blame it on the Double action first round :)

185gr JSWC over bullseye - target 1 is 4.2 grains up to 4.8gr on target 4.

Throw out the flyer and no load distinguishes itself as "the one"

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Shoot all shots single action and see if you lose your "flier"

I am about to stop reloading .45 and switch over to all small primer reloading. If interested, I have a **** load of .45 components, especially brass if interested.

Jay
 
Try: different powder, different crimp tension, semiwadcutters, etc. with a stock Ruger barrel you may not ever do much better. Also, what kind of rest rest are you using: sand bags, Ransom, etc?

Trigger job? My 1911 has a custom barrel, bushing, hammer, trigger, etc, but offhand I still can't shoot bullseye in the high 80's.
 
Yeh, different powders is kind if a problem right now as the supply lines are hosed ... "We have 'X' or 'Y' right now. Take it or leave it, and decide in 10 seconds because those 50 people behind you in line are just as frustrated as you."

I picked Bullseye as I remembered it to be the generic "go to" for 1911 loads.

No rest - these were offhand and frankly, I was a but rushed to get done. Slipped in between reservations at the range on the way home and honestly just hoped they all went bang. Funny thing was the first one didn't! Struck primer nicely but no bang. Hit it a second time and it fired. No other FTF or FTE in the batch.
 
I used to shoot pistol Bullseye and NRA Service Rifle competitions back in the early '80s, but after Uncle Sam quit sponsoring my habit with entry fees, weapons, ammo and time, I only shoot recreationally and for hunting.

A friend is big into 3 gun competition (IDPA? - I'm out of date on the acronyms) but has convinced me to at least look at competing again. He said this upcoming match is USPSA - again with the acronyms!

This .45 except for Pachmyer grips is a stock Ruger P90. The trigger - except for that 36" 100 pound first DA pull - is an acceptable 4.5lb SA. Acceptable for plinking paper and cans, but yeah, could definitely benefit from a trigger job.

I have a suspicion that once I shoot this match on Saturday with my friend, the race gun bug is going to bit again ... hard! :)

Wish I would have kept my Gold Cup and Combat Commander, but you know .... "if wishes were horses..."
 
Mmmm Gold Cup. I love that one. I have an Officers and the trigger pull is just fine for me. Although, I'm considering getting rid of my Hogue grips and going back to the stock rosewood.

My Dad and I almost began doing competitive pistol shooting, but we really never got around to going to any matches... Darn... He was always into sharp shooting competitions, though. Lots of time spent at Camp Perry.
 
Cool that you got your reloading going for the pistols, Greg. It's darn near a must do for rifle stuff in some cartridges right now, or you'll pay a buck a shot or more for factory ammo.

IDPA/USPDA both look fun. If you're going to do 3-gun, go spend some time learning to reload your shotgun fast. Most videos I see, that's where most new folks spend significant time during their runs. Especially if they don't have a shell holder on the stock and are pulling shells out of their pants pockets. ;)

When things settle down I want to shoot IDPA with a true "carry" pistol. There's something that bugs me about a "defensive pistol" competition where people run speed guns and stuff that would never be carried. Kinda seems against the point of the organization, but it's still a skill building thing, however you slice it. It's ok, I know they do it in different Classes, but it's weird to me to have some race pistol all ported and huge barrel shooting as if it were "defensive". :)
 
I just started reading the rules and regs and there are several classes in the competition, from stock "carry gun" to full out race guns, so the playing field gets leveled a bit.

The friend I'm talking to is from Carbon Arms - they have a number of 3 gun training courses. I found a blog online from a student there who had a writeup on reloading skills, techniques, accessories, etc for shotgunning ... looks interesting.

I thought about you yesterday, Nate, as I rolled thru Centennial Gun Club on the way home from work for that test shoot in the 1st post. Hope you're doing ok.
 
I don't know what it is about me, but I like to roll my own so to speak. I reload, tie my own flies. brew beer, and make my own wine.
 
HerrGruyere said:
Lots of time spent at Camp Perry.
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I had an opportunity to compete at Camp Perry once. 40 years ago I was invited to shoot on the 6th Army ROTC Rifle team at the matches after summer camp at Ft. Lewis. However, my wedding was scheduled for a week and a half after camp and I figured that it would be wiser to show up for that. We'll celebrate our 40th anniversary the end of July, so I guess I made the right choice. :yes:
 
So this must be what it's like to look in on an aviation forum and not speak aviationese. Never shot a gun and have no interest in them...but it sure does have its own language!

Carry on! :)
 
jpower said:
So this must be what it's like to look in on an aviation forum and not speak aviationese. Never shot a gun and have no interest in them...but it sure does have its own language!

Carry on! :)
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Try looking in on an NFA forum and you'll find that even gun guys have niches with languages of their own. NFA is machineguns, silencers, cannons, short barreled rifles and shotguns, and a class called AOW-any other weapon which is stuff like sword guns, belt buckle guns, pistols with two grips and other oddities.

I have an M&P 45 and normally use 231. I never tried bullseye.
The M&P is single action only and the flyers are normally my fault.

Frank
 
I have never worried about hitting anything smaller then a torso sized target at more then 50 feet.

I will admit, I want to be able to hit it sitting, standing, or moving strong hand or weak but I have never really gotten into hitting the smallest possible area.

As the Army taught me, aim center mass and squeeze the round off.

I will make an observation, if you are left handed 3 of the 4 shots it looks like you jerked the trigger and that is what got you the flyer.

Flav
 
Flavius Renatus said:
I have never worried about hitting anything smaller then a torso sized target at more then 50 feet.

I will admit, I want to be able to hit it sitting, standing, or moving strong hand or weak but I have never really gotten into hitting the smallest possible area.

As the Army taught me, aim center mass and squeeze the round off.

I will make an observation, if you are left handed 3 of the 4 shots it looks like you jerked the trigger and that is what got you the flyer.

Flav
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Combat accuracy, if you're groups are smaller than the distance between your opponents nipples you were too slow.
 
One handed shooter here, and not by choice. Grouping can be difficult.
 
gkainz said:
Take away lesson is only shoot 4 round groups since every group has a flyer! :) I'm going to blame it on the Double action first round :)
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If you want to evaluate the loads without you in the mix, why not pony up the money for a Ransom Rest?

--Carlos V.
 
Someone forwarded this to me... I haven't vetted it, but if true, very interesting. Especially for reloaders.

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Subject: Status of gun industry!

Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia:
Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.
Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1st.

Remington: Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL: is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...
 
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