Halloween drunks

RalphInCA

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I was on the roads about 11pm last night and gawddamn there were a lot of drunk drivers out. Or at least it seemed so.

Drivers seemed even worse than other holidays. Glad the horn in my car works well and I was paying attention!
 
I call the cops and then follow the guy until they nab them.
 
bartmc said:
Yep,nothing liking shaking down hundreds of innocent folks for no reason other than to find a couple of people drinking who probably drive better tipsy than 98% of sober drivers.
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The first half of your statement has some validity. The second half however ruins any credibility you may have had.
 
Halloween has become the party holiday for loser adults. Exercise the same caution you would on new years eve.
 
I called about one that almost t-boned me and proceeded to run everyone else off the road. It turned into a half hour long police pursuit through 3 towns, concluding with the state police ramming the car off the road into an embankment. That was a fun evening.
 
Pedals2Paddles said:
The first half of your statement has some validity. The second half however ruins any credibility you may have had.
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There's people who'll drive just fine at .1% and then there's grandma's ( my family included ) who have no business on the road at all. Yet we won't take Grannies keys from her but well put the 35 year old in jail and potentially ruin his life. MADD and politicians have built quit the boogyman out of 0.08%. so much so that were willing to let the cops pull us over for no reason. I have zero doubt that I'd drive better at 0.09% than my 88 year old grandmother does on her best day sober.
 
bartmc said:
There's people who'll drive just fine at .1% and then there's grandma's ( my family included ) who have no business on the road at all. Yet we won't take Grannies keys from her but well put the 35 year old in jail and potentially ruin his life. MADD and politicians have built quit the boogyman out of 0.08%. so much so that were willing to let the cops pull us over for no reason. I have zero doubt that I'd drive better at 0.09% than my 88 year old grandmother does on her best day sober.
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Agreed....

Impaired driving is Impaired driving...........

Problem is that puts a judgement call on the LEO... It could either work out ok for someone,, or not...:hairraise:
 
bartmc said:
I have zero doubt that I'd drive better at 0.09% than my 88 year old grandmother does on her best day sober.
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The fact is then neither of you should be on the road.
Being able to drive better drunk than your grandmother sober is not justification for driving under the influence.

I don't think that is where you were going with that (hopefully)
 
I completely agree regarding the elderly. Of course that will never change, since the politicians that would have to change the law are elderly, or have campaign donors that are elderly. And since campaign donations and vote pandering is really all that matters, it won't change.

DUI on the other hand, sorry but my tolerance is just bit lower than whale ****.
 
My hotel is within walking distance of 19 bars and restaurants. There is NO reason to drink and drive here. People who drive drunk need to lose their license, period.

What REALLY gripes me, however, is that police have taken to issuing tickets instead for "public intoxication". These are the smart people, the ones who left the car keys in the hotel room, walked to the bars, and are simply walking home at bar time.

Last Spring Break, the cops had an unofficial checkpoint across the street from our hotel. I watched as they stopped people, made them stand on one leg, shined the flashlight in their eyes, and hauled them away.

Guess what? Spring break is ten days long. Word quickly got around that it was safer to drive to the bars!

Safer for them -- not for the rest of us. People stopped walking -- brilliant!

IMHO, unless you're staggering in the street, puking on the sidewalk, or singing at the top of you lungs, the cops should leave you alone. We haven't seen that sort of heavy handed policing since early summer, so maybe they figured it out?
 
Because it is about money and showing who is boss. Cars are oppression machines people stop driving and they gotta oppress pedestrians. If the people stayed home and got quietly drunk we'd have to kick in their doors.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
The fact is then neither of you should be on the road.
Being able to drive better drunk than your grandmother sober is not justification for driving under the influence.

I don't think that is where you were going with that (hopefully)
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No, that's not where I was going, just saying between the texting, the dementia, the buffet of prescription drugs everyone is on and just incompetence. A guy with a few beers in him is probably towards the bottom of the safety hazard list. Yet he's the one we're wiling to allow ourselves to be stopped and searched with zero probable cause to catch then we scream "off with his head" (probably on twitter while driving) when he's caught. So, when do we start pulling license when people hit 70? Why don't we wire our medical records into the DMV and pull license as soon as a scrip for Percocet is written? why don't we require class III medicals, 40 hours of training, driving reviews every 2 years? How about 2K in fines, and pulling licenses for a year or so if you're caught texting?
 
Halloween has always been my least-favorite holiday, and is becoming even more so every year. I've always considered it dumb, even as a kid, but now it's getting deadly. Between the drunks and the hooples, I don't know who's worse. They were all over the road last night.

The fact that they're doing this while the streets are full of little kids wearing usually dark-colored costumes just makes it worse. Communities really need to consider discouraging trick-or-treating after dusk. Let the little extortionists shake down the neighbors for candy while it's still light, and gather them somewhere to watch scary movies when it starts to get dark. Then we'd only have to worry about the adult idiots.

Rich
 
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Twenty-six year law enforcement officer here...checkpoints are a major waste of resources. Hundreds and hundreds of cars filter through one, all to net maybe two or three DUIs. Much better to put those officers in cars and do normal self-initiated traffic enforcement stops, especially if they are deployed in the areas where DUI collisions have occurred.
 
bartmc said:
No, that's not where I was going, just saying between the texting, the dementia, the buffet of prescription drugs everyone is on and just incompetence. A guy with a few beers in him is probably towards the bottom of the safety hazard list. Yet he's the one we're wiling to allow ourselves to be stopped and searched with zero probable cause to catch then we scream "off with his head" (probably on twitter while driving) when he's caught. So, when do we start pulling license when people hit 70? Why don't we wire our medical records into the DMV and pull license as soon as a scrip for Percocet is written? why don't we require class III medicals, 40 hours of training, driving reviews every 2 years? How about 2K in fines, and pulling licenses for a year or so if you're caught texting?
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Aside from my hatred of unconstitutional checkpoints, you're right. MADD had ruined a lot of people's lives by pushing the limits down to .08.
 
Most drunks are not arrested at .08. They're well above that number. Well above .1 even So to claim that that the .08 limit "ruins lives" is pretty disingenuous.
 
Pedals2Paddles said:
Most drunks are not arrested at .08. They're well above that number. Well above .1 even So to claim that that the .08 limit "ruins lives" is pretty disingenuous.
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If you get popped at .08 you are in the same pile of trouble. Fat pilots are more dangerous then .08 drunk drivers.
 
Corpsmaide said:
Checkpoint time
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So let's crap all over the constitution too. :nono:

I'd rather take my chances with the remote possibility of getting hit by a drunk driver.


Maybe police should do some real police work, find stolen cars, go after property and person crimes, etc.
 
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I think you guys should run for office on a platform of relaxing DUI laws. Don't for get to legalize pot too.
 
Brad Z said:
I think you guys should run for office on a platform of relaxing DUI laws. Don't for get to legalize pot too.
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Should work, everybody drives 'illegally intoxicated' at one point or another. It is too late but some of the dumb housewives are getting tired of the culture they built.
 
James331 said:
So let's crap all over the constitution too. :nono:

I'd rather take my chances with the remote possibility of getting hit by a drunk driver.


Maybe police should do some real police work, find stolen cars, go after property and person crimes, etc.
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That gets done as well.
 
Corpsmaide said:
That gets done as well.
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Our "shop truck" got broken into one night. My dad's business was next door to a housing project. Whoever broke in thought the floor air vents were the way to pop the hood. They ripped those out, broke the window out, stole the battery. When they punched the window out, they cut themself. That night there was a rare snow in Mississippi. There were foot prints and a blood trail lending to the apartment at the housing projects direct from the truck. The ****ing ***** ass cop wouldn't even knock on the door….. no money in it. Enjoy your day being a tax collector with a gun.
 
bartmc said:
Our "shop truck" got broken into one night. My dad's business was next door to a housing project. Whoever broke in thought the floor air vents were the way to pop the hood. They ripped those out, broke the window out, stole the battery. When they punched the window out, they cut themself. That night there was a rare snow in Mississippi. There were foot prints and a blood trail lending to the apartment at the housing projects direct from the truck. The ****ing ***** ass cop wouldn't even knock on the door….. no money in it. Enjoy your day being a tax collector with a gun.
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If that is true, that was poor police work. That is unfortunate. :yes:
 
Corpsmaide said:
That gets done as well.
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I gotta agree with the laughter there. I've had a number of crimes committed against me that were property only crimes over the years. All the police did was provide a website where I could fill out a "police report" myself, to hand to my insurance agent.

Even traffic accidents are that way now here in winter, now that we have everyone on mandatory no-fault coverage. If it's snowing, counties go on "Accident Alert" and the requirement to even call the police is legally waived.

Exchange insurance info, hope the other driver didn't lie, and go home and fill out your own police report online.

You get to be your own data entry clerk.

Crime investigation? Hilarious. Yeah right.

I laughed my ass off at another thread where someone recommended seeing if there were fingerprints on something. Haven't seen a cop take a fingerprint at anything but a Homicide scene in 20 years.

Burglary? Not a chance. Robbery? No way. Assault? Nope. Well maybe if it's a big wig who can change funding or election outcomes.
 
denverpilot said:
I gotta agree with the laughter there. I've had a number of crimes committed against me that were property only crimes over the years. All the police did was provide a website where I could fill out a "police report" myself, to hand to my insurance agent.

Even traffic accidents are that way now here in winter, now that we have everyone on mandatory no-fault coverage. If it's snowing, counties go on "Accident Alert" and the requirement to even call the police is legally waived.

Exchange insurance info, hope the other driver didn't lie, and go home and fill out your own police report online.

You get to be your own data entry clerk.

Crime investigation? Hilarious. Yeah right.

I laughed my ass off at another thread where someone recommended seeing if there were fingerprints on something. Haven't seen a cop take a fingerprint at anything but a Homicide scene in 20 years.

Burglary? Not a chance. Robbery? No way. Assault? Nope. Well maybe if it's a big wig who can change funding or election outcomes.
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Some cops still dust every chance they can. Some agencies require it and you'd have to articulate why you could not/ would not. Cases were solved off of my prints taken at the patrol level. LE is another group in which people like to make generalizations about.
 
Corpsmaide said:
I've got case files to prove it
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How does the number of properly investigated cases compare to the number that are just filed away?

If there is no money or publicity then the chances are action from any metropolitan police department around here are minimal. Robbery? there has to be a string of activity before they notice. Simple theft? no investigation.

Okay, prosecution is tough which is the practical driver behind the low interest but the lack of investigation follow-up is part of letting thieves run rampant.
 
Clark1961 said:
How does the number of properly investigated cases compare to the number that are just filed away?

If there is no money or publicity then the chances are action from any metropolitan police department around here are minimal. Robbery? there has to be a string of activity before they notice. Simple theft? no investigation.

Okay, prosecution is tough which is the practical driver behind the low interest but the lack of investigation follow-up is part of letting thieves run rampant.
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Agreed 100%..

Case in point... If you or I get murdered , LEO's "might" solve the crime.. Maybe,,,,

Now, when a LEO gets murdered like in Penn, they bring out the troups from ALL over and walla,,, Suspect in jail....

See, they have the ability, they just selectively use it..:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad:
 
Your drunk drivers don't get on the road until 11pm? Here in Drunktown, USA they are on the road 24/7. Plus walking in the road, passed out on the road, passed out on sidewalks, passed out in ditches, passed out in restaurants, passed out in dumpsters, walking parking lots begging for money, going through Walmart and eating off the shelves then leaving.....

It is not unusual to see a train stopped on the tracks with several police cars around it, the police are all walking around the train, looking for the other half of the body because another one was passed out on the tracks.

The check points worked. The police would have 2 or 3 busses waiting to load up customers. When a bus filled up it made a trip to unload. Now they have "Community Aid" vans that look for walking drunks. "Native American" drunks get taken to community place to sleep it off, receive free medical treatment, free legal aid, a free meal, a shower, hair cut and get their clothes washed. They know that they can leave the reservation and get drunk, then get taken care of.

Non natives go to the drunk tank and get charged with appropriate charges.

Everyone that is against drunk driving laws, you are members of DAMM right?
 
denverpilot said:
I gotta agree with the laughter there. I've had a number of crimes committed against me that were property only crimes over the years. All the police did was provide a website where I could fill out a "police report" myself, to hand to my insurance agent.

Even traffic accidents are that way now here in winter, now that we have everyone on mandatory no-fault coverage. If it's snowing, counties go on "Accident Alert" and the requirement to even call the police is legally waived.

Exchange insurance info, hope the other driver didn't lie, and go home and fill out your own police report online.

You get to be your own data entry clerk.

Crime investigation? Hilarious. Yeah right.

I laughed my ass off at another thread where someone recommended seeing if there were fingerprints on something. Haven't seen a cop take a fingerprint at anything but a Homicide scene in 20 years.

Burglary? Not a chance. Robbery? No way. Assault? Nope. Well maybe if it's a big wig who can change funding or election outcomes.
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Only interactions I've had with police were getting a petty ticket, or them asking if I wanted a report after my stuff was stolen.

Had near 10 grad in pool equipment stolen and a utility door broken down, ZERO interest in even trying to dust for print or recover my equipment.

Our hangar at work as broken into, quite a few things stolen, zero interest in dusting for prints or solving it, just wrote a report.

5 years ago my home was broken into, zero dusting for prints and no interest in solving it or recovering my stuff.

10 over the speed limit and cops jump out of the bushes to write a ticket, trying to get home on a weekend plenty of checkpoint to trample my rights.

I do NOT support police anymore.
 
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