Grease Monkey Quick Lube

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The original "I don't know it all" of aviation.
This quick lube and car wash business is starting to make their way into Texas. I'm curious if folks here have used them and what their opinions are versus any other similar biz.

I see they have a strong presence in the Denver area.

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The quality of the work at these places is best characterized as "adequate". The turnover in the staff is usually pretty high and crossthreaded or buggered drain plugs are not uncommon. If you use them, check under your car after it's been parked a while.

After I stopped doing my own changes, I take my beater car there but anything else goes to the independent shop I've been dealing with for decades or to the dealer when free service is still in effect.

Cheers
 
@X3 Skier -- are you generalizing about all quick lubes? Or Grease Monkey in particular?

My question was not to begin a debate on quick lubes... but to find out specific information on Grease Monkey.
 
I just checked the Yelp on the local Grease Monkey (there is one in Antioch) and it has a very high average review rating. In comparison, Jiffy Lube is uniformly middle of the road.
 
I thought Grease Monkey was a browser add-on....

That said, I don't use the quick lube shops after a poor experience (and a colleague where they failed to tighten the drain plug). These days it's either a trusted local shop (NO dealers) or I do it my self. Which reminds me....
 
Which reminds me..... I need to change the oil and fluids on my diesel, 2 Subarus, my moms Ford, my tractor and 4 wheeler.

Anyone got a spare hour or two this weekend..???
 
@X3 Skier -- are you generalizing about all quick lubes? Or Grease Monkey in particular?

My question was not to begin a debate on quick lubes... but to find out specific information on Grease Monkey.

My opinion was applicable to all the quick change shops which I honestly really can't differentiate. Grease Lube, Quaker Steaks, Oily Monkey, whoever:D

Cheers
 
My opinion was applicable to all the quick change shops which I honestly really can't differentiate. Grease Lube, Quaker Steaks, Oily Monkey, whoever:D

Cheers
I think the individual shop's supervision/management matters more than the brand.
 
I used them in college (Terre Haute, IN). I liked them. Folks we're nice and honest. This was 11-15 years ago.
 
Echoing Clark1961. Huge variety of stories but mostly the horror stories get repeated.
Mike, I assume you're asking more from a purchase/investment point of view than "should I use this?"
Folks who are into their cars won't take them to the mass places Mike's talking about. But since cars are increasingly commodity appliances and people don't care about them, they may have a good future.
 
Echoing Clark1961. Huge variety of stories but mostly the horror stories get repeated.
Mike, I assume you're asking more from a purchase/investment point of view than "should I use this?"
Folks who are into their cars won't take them to the mass places Mike's talking about. But since cars are increasingly commodity appliances and people don't care about them, they may have a good future.

Actually, I took my Jaguar there. Part of the reason was they didn't care about me driving the car in and out of the bay, or having me involved. I used them because I didn't have a good way to transport used oil at the time other than pouring it down the storm drain.
 
Let's see, the local one here uses an oil filter that costs them 57cents per unit, just have to ask really how good that is for your engine, horror stories of either not enough oil used, oil drain plug not tight etc... I always see a bunch of late teenage boys working there.

A mechanic friend of mine who worked on the WRC circuit always offered 1 simple piece of advice, use synthetic oil and an OEM oil filter.
 
I think the individual shop's supervision/management matters more than the brand.

This @AggieMike88 - remember the thread on franchises? They're a franchise company.

I've used a few. I like my cars. I bring my own filters and oil. If I get behind and know an oil change is needed and don't have my own filter and oil I only run theirs for 3000 miles and get it out of the car. It's bulk and probably fine for short oil change intervals and the filters are junk if you cut them open. Only do that if the local places are out of stock on my chosen fluids and/or filters.

Like others have said, if you can get past their corporate "no customers in bays" and watch, you can make sure they don't do something stupid.

They often employ, shall we say, well-meaning kids. They make mistakes. Especially if there is anything weird about a particular vehicle.

Profit margin-wise, they charge about double what a home oil change would cost with cheaper bulk oil and low quality filters. They make the majority of their money upselling other things like overpriced air filters and cabin filters. They also overcharge for stuff like differential oil changes and transmission service, and they don't do a pan drop or filter change on transmissions. They just suck out the fluid and replace. They're scared to death of old transmissions even at the good ones.

I did NOT bring my own gear oil but asked them if they could do the differentials on the Subaru. Their computer told them bad info (they rely HEAVILY on their computer system to determine what to do on different models and brands) and they said they can do the rear diff but not the front. Both take the EXACT same gear oil on my Subaru.

Their computer thinks my car has a manual transmission and has no data on the four speed automatic and the differentials. So they think the front diff shares fluid with the tranny, which it doesn't on the 2000 w/ automatic.

I told them NEVERMIND once I realized they don't know Subaru. They wanted to do the rear diff and leave the front alone. NO.

So you have to KNOW your vehicle and watch them like a hawk.

They also upsell silly stuff like fuel system cleanings and what not. Lots of things you probably don't really need. They prey on clueless people which is one thing I don't like about their business model. On the flip side, we know of a similar place (different brand franchise - Jiffy Lube) that has techs we trust and a manager we KNOW and I don't deal with Karen's truck. A deal we've had for years. She takes her truck there on her schedule. I offer to do her fluid changes at home and if her schedule doesn't match mine, go get it done at the franchise place. They know enough about Ford trucks they don't screw it up. And they send her an email when it's likely due again. She knows to not do the upsell stuff without checking with me.

But if they'll let you watch, it's $30 well spent (on top of buying your own fluids and filters) to save time having to put on the grubbies on a cold winter day to change oil. Unless you have a pit or warm garage and a lift at home. LOL.

Some buy the gear to do brakes and alignments as an add-on to the usual oil change stuff. I wouldn't use any of them for that unless I had a personal recommendation that they had a smart brake and alignment guy or gal. They usually don't know what they're doing.
 
@AggieMike88, I did not use Grease Monkey for the years I lived in COS. Two reasons: location and reputation. There just wasn't one convenient to me. For reputation, I used a company called Aspen Auto Care. Similar/same business model as Christian Brothers, except I believe Aspen was not franchised. Christian Brothers now that I'm back in Texas again. What I liked about Aspen and like about CB was/is the stable management team, open communication, and overall professionalism. Yes, I paid a premium at both of those businesses, but to me it was a value added premium.


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I've had negative experiences with a couple of different quick lube places, and I don't use them any more. Our cars are newish and we still take them to the dealer.If there's a software update that gets done at the same time. With the longer oil change intervals that newer cars now have, it's not that much of a hassle to take them to the dealer.
 
The dealer's grease monkey failed to put the oil cap back on properly on my car's second oil change a few years ago, fairly saturating the engine compartment in short order. They cleaned it all up (only lost about 1/3 of a quart), but I then realized the guy at the dealer probably couldn't get a job at Jiffy Lube.

I've generally had good experiences at Valvoline quick change places near me. They seem pretty thorough, and have a verbal cross-check between a couple employees to verify they did the critical tasks correctly. Sure, they might just be going through the motions, but at least they are thinking about it at some level.

I still do my own oil changes on my Chevy Cruze when I can, but my wife's Buick Enclave is nearly impossible to change the oil on without proper equipment and more access than I can get from under a basic ramp. The oil filter is in just about the most inaccessible place possible.
 
In 2000 I stopped at a quick oil place in Canada. I wanted the front and rear differentials checked. Both good and they refused to take money from me even though I was an American just passing through.

I really enjoy driving through western Canada. I may retire there.

Doesn't most of the quick oil changes just suck the oil out from the dipstick tube..??
 
Doesn't most of the quick oil changes just suck the oil out from the dipstick tube..??

Not any that I've ever been too. That's why a concern is them messing up the threads or over-tightening the drain plan plug.
 
Not any that I've ever been too. That's why a concern is them messing up the threads or over-tightening the drain plan plug.

Thanks, I worked with a guy that worked in a quickie change while going to flight school and he told me they sucked out the fluids, but that was more than 10 years ago.
 
Thanks, I worked with a guy that worked in a quickie change while going to flight school and he told me they sucked out the fluids, but that was more than 10 years ago.

They often suck out the transmission fluid. Depends on the shop.

They'll claim their system is better than dropping the pan and changing the filter.

Probably because people bring in vehicles that the only thing holding the tranny together and not slipping is the crap suspended in the transmission fluid, and they get a fluid and filter change and the thing starts slipping.

Then they're looking at a typical transmission rebuild or replacement bill and they go hunting for the lube place's head because "it all started after they changed my fluid".

Slushboxes suck in this regard. If they're not maintained they're a time bomb and then someone says, "Oh yes, I should get that done" during the upsell phase of a lube place's standard pitches to change other fluids besides oil, and they freak when the slushbox that was 40,000 miles over the non-heavy duty fluid change interval starts freaking out or clogs up a valve from disturbing all the worn crap in the bottom of the pan and filter.
 
My opinion was applicable to all the quick change shops which I honestly really can't differentiate. Grease Lube, Quaker Steaks, Oily Monkey, whoever:D

Cheers

Quaker Steaks does oil changes?
 
For some cars, 'topside' is the standard way to perform an oil change.



I have an oil-change pit in my garage. Now I have to do all my own oil changes ;-)
 
For some cars, 'topside' is the standard way to perform an oil change.

I have an oil-change pit in my garage. Now I have to do all my own oil changes ;-)

I want a lift. Doesn't fall over the line from want to need, so it'll probably never happen. But it'd be nice.
 
I want a lift. Doesn't fall over the line from want to need, so it'll probably never happen. But it'd be nice.

One of my prior houses had a tall garage box for an RV. The guy I bought it from had a 4-post lift for his track car. Sadly it wasn't included in the house.
 
We had a GreaseMonkey-brand place across the street from my office and I used them a lot. Of course, with franchises, it's hard to tell but I liked it. The humorous part is that they had this little dish with wells for all your different fluids that they brought you out to show in the middle of the oil change.
 
I've been using Firestone. Franchise perhaps, but they use real mechanics and they understand hot vs. cold tire inflation pressures.
 
You get the quality of service you pay for. I don't mind the extra $10 the dealer charges for an OEM filter and experienced trained workers who know what they are doing, if they F'up something then they are on the hook to fix it.

Is it a quick 15 min turnaround, no but at least it's done right.
 
You get the quality of service you pay for. I don't mind the extra $10 the dealer charges for an OEM filter and experienced trained workers who know what they are doing, if they F'up something then they are on the hook to fix it.

Is it a quick 15 min turnaround, no but at least it's done right.
IME usually the folks doing the oil changes and whatnot at a dealer are no more qualified than the folks doing it at any quick lube place. The dealers don’t have their skilled mechanics just changing oil all day.
 
IME usually the folks doing the oil changes and whatnot at a dealer are no more qualified than the folks doing it at any quick lube place. The dealers don’t have their skilled mechanics just changing oil all day.

I worked for a Ford dealer for about 3 years, over 35 years ago. The guys that cleaned the new cars did the oil changes back then. Not the sharpest tools in the shed...
 
I have to say that the Grease Monkey guys caught an water pump problem in my car when they were under it. They very nicely ordered up the part from the NAPA guy and put it in for me cheaper than I could have done it elsewhere. Not their main bread-and-butter work, but they were competent.
 
The dealers don’t have their skilled mechanics just changing oil all day.

Perhaps but I have seen skilled mechanics and non skilled folks change the oil at my local Nissan dealership which is why I go to that one and not a closer one.

Even if it was a junior person, their work is checked before the lift is lowered and they stand by their work, Nissan constantly ask for feedback and the dealer has a sense of pride.....

Cheapo oil change places will never get my business...
 
You get the quality of service you pay for. I don't mind the extra $10 the dealer charges for an OEM filter and experienced trained workers who know what they are doing, if they F'up something then they are on the hook to fix it.

Is it a quick 15 min turnaround, no but at least it's done right.
I once used the dealer on the first oil change for a new truck. They put on the cheapest Fram filter and charged several times the cost of the same filter at the auto parts store. Never again.
 
I've been using Firestone. Franchise perhaps, but they use real mechanics and they understand hot vs. cold tire inflation pressures.

Same franchise problems of inconsistent quality. We have one that's closer than pretty much everything else to our house, and they're batting about 50% on clueful. (And they're not getting any more "at bats" so it doesn't matter anymore.)

They put a new fuel pump on the Yukon when it died and I had it towed there (closest place, it was two blocks from where it had died, and they had done some other things right, so we trusted them) and it was stuttering and losing power for a week afterward. Not only that, but they looked at it again. They decided the pump pressure was fine (and obviously never drove it) and told me to take it to the Dealer to have them diagnose.

So I decided to take it to a GMC dealership ... without looking myself. Should have. It would have been obvious.

Dealer calls in half an hour -- they didn't use the right connector on the fuel pump. It would have been impossible to seat it fully, or get it to lock, and they found signs that the only reason the pump was running at all was because it was barely making contact at the electrical connector and was arcing all week.

The guy said he cleaned up the connector on the truck, cut off the wrong connector on the pump, put the right one on, and plugged it back in. Click.

$25 including labor. Pretty nice of them. He recommended staying away from whatever shop did it.

Since the pumps come pre-connectorized, it means they ordered the wrong part, and then standing there under a nice lift looking at it with plenty of light, they just tried to cram a square peg into a round hole until it jammed in there, and then when they turned the key it ran.

Same place earlier did a heater core change on Karen's Lincoln LT pickup truck. They were all excited that they'd never done one before -- and told me they took photos of the dash sitting on the ground next to the truck (yes, Ford makes you pull the steering wheel to change a heater core these days) -- which was a big hint.

The leak two days later was the next hint.

Took it back and they took the dash out a second time. Found that they'd bought the wrong heater core.

You see, nearly every part in a Lincoln LT is the same part for a Ford F-150 of the same model year. But... not the heater core. You actually have to look up and use the Lincoln part.

At least they fixed it for free. But that was "it" for the local Firestone. No more time left in my life for training their young techs. They can learn on someone else's vehicles.
 
At least they fixed it for free. But that was "it" for the local Firestone. No more time left in my life for training their young techs. They can learn on someone else's vehicles.

Which is a problem many garages are having now. Here in my town 2 shops have recently closed up because they can't find reliable help. I haven't twisted a wrench in over 30 years yet one guy wants to hire me to work in his shop. Basically he wants me to baby sit his master mechanics and teach the younger tech school graduates how to fix cars.
 
I've used Grease Monkey, they're OK. I usually get a better price at the Valvoline place.

I think the challenge of the quick oil change business is the dealers and independent shops often use oil changes as loss leaders to get customers, and hopefully additional repair work. I often get $20 oil change coupons from those places. Probably why Grease Monkey and the others are trying to get into repair work.
 
I'd wager there probably isn't a torque wrench to be found in that place, just a bunch of monkeys with impact drivers, bet it's been years, if ever, since they touched a torque wrench.

I wouldn't let them change the oil on my lawn mower.
 
I'd wager there probably isn't a torque wrench to be found in that place, just a bunch of monkeys with impact drivers, bet it's been years, if ever, since they touched a torque wrench.

I wouldn't let them change the oil on my lawn mower.

Around here it's 50/50. The ones that employ all the farm kids, those guys have their modified cars in the parking lot and are all total gearheads, and are like kids in a candy store when the SnapOn truck rolls up. They definitely have torque wrenches and know how to use them.

The places that employ what I can only describe as the city kids who think working on cars will be "cool" ... my sentiments match yours.

You can tell quite a bit by looking and seeing what's in the back parking lot behind them.
 
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