Goodbye to DHL for domestic shipments??

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From an office memo just received:

….DHL has made it known that they must leave the domestic market for shipment of small packages. They plan to remain operational in connection with the shipment of packages to international destinations.

While we have not been provided an actual date for cessation of DHL domestic services, we have been advised by our DHL representatives that they can no longer guarantee the timeliness of their deliveries to domestic addresses. In that connection, our team has made a decision at the national level to immediately begin to discourage continued use of DHL for shipment of packages to domestic destinations and encourage the use of UPS instead.

Please do refrain from using DHL services going forward and begin using UPS for the shipment of packages to domestic destinations. Please feel welcome to let us know if you require additional UPS shipping supplies and we will arrange delivery ASAP.
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My brother-in-law works for them in Seattle; will have to touch base with him and see what's up and how it will affect them.
 
Not too surprised. DHL hasn't been great domestically, and they bought Airborne, which was at the lousy end of the performance envelope.

Wonder what's going to happen to Wilmington, Ohio - it's got two great parallel runways - but has been privately owned & run by Airborne/DHL for years.
 
They say they're going to make cuts evenly across the board, so Wilmington shouldn't be hit too badly. My department has used DHL for a long time, it will be interesting to see how this pans out.
 
Just before the shut-down and buyout, I looked at going to work for DHL. The pay was as lousy as is possible and there was no overtime as you were contracted for the routes. It wasn't any better after the buyout.

Three of the five worst problems I had in getting items delivered were on DHL. The first of them involved a driver beating on my door while I was in the "reading room." I got to the door in time to watch him leave without providing a notice or tracking number. He peeled rubber while driving away... up hill. I was not a happy camper.

UPS and FedEx have their issues but I'll take either over DHL any day.
 
TangoWhiskey said:
From an office memo just received:

My brother-in-law works for them in Seattle; will have to touch base with him and see what's up and how it will affect them.
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A good friend of mine recently retired from DHL, formerly Airborne. He tells me that DHL ran the business straight into the ground, earning the motto "DHL = "Day-and-a-Half-Late".

In fact, several months ago (perhaps in preparation for this moment) DHL announced that their deliveries in Iowa would be handled by...(wait for it)...

UPS! That's right, DHL was paying UPS to deliver their stuff!

I don't think there's any doubt why DHL failed in the US market...
 
Hopefully that means less DHL planes flying over my apartment. For some reason their planes are twice as loud as any other planes. :dunno:
 
I stopped using DHL for domestic shipments a long time ago. They are still the preferred shipper for sending stuff to Asia. The reason being that DHL clears customs in the mainland of the US whereas FedEX does so in Anchorage. The customs inspectors in Anchorage often stop things and ask for more paperwork than normally is used. This delays shipments unnecessarily.
 
I've still got pictures at home of a box that DHL destroyed in shipping. Fortunately, the vendor anticipated that and the item arrived in operational condition. But that box was mangled. They looked like they were in line to teach the USPS a few lessons on abuse. :D
 
KennyFlys said:
Just before the shut-down and buyout, I looked at going to work for DHL. The pay was as lousy as is possible and there was no overtime as you were contracted for the routes. It wasn't any better after the buyout.

Three of the five worst problems I had in getting items delivered were on DHL. The first of them involved a driver beating on my door while I was in the "reading room." I got to the door in time to watch him leave without providing a notice or tracking number. He peeled rubber while driving away... up hill. I was not a happy camper.

UPS and FedEx have their issues but I'll take either over DHL any day.
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DHL had a great product and service before the Airborne acquisition. Once DHL acquired Airborne they fired 3000 loyal and dedicated couriers and adopted the Airborne "IC" model ( Independent Contractor). These are the guys with the gansta tattoo's with their underwear hanging out wearing their baseball hat sideways with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth. This greatly destroyed consumer confidence.

The other part of the bad equation were the former Airborne employees that demanded DHL "do it their way" or else. And then add in the company (DHL) is owned by DPWN (Deutsche Post World Net). There is a reason the Germans started two world wars and lost both of them.

Wilmington (ILN) is yet another disaster in the DHL system. An airport in the middle of farm country in Ohio with no good road access to the interstate system, no fuel pipeline to provide fuel for over 100 jets, a parking ramp that was designed by Rube Goldberg, etc, etc...........

On the world global view, DHL dwarfs both UPS and FedEx. DHL's plan now is to go back to doing international freight only and unravel the Airborne debacle.
 
Rotor&Wing said:
Another NIMBY. If airplane noise bothers you why do you live close to the airport?
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You're reading too much into it. She has actually posted in the past indicating she enjoys watching aircraft pass over. Her remark to which you refer was regarding the DHL aircraft being much louder than others.
 
KennyFlys said:
You're reading too much into it. She has actually posted in the past indicating she enjoys watching aircraft pass over. Her remark to which you refer was regarding the DHL aircraft being much louder than others.
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Just reminds me of what happened at my home airport a few years ago. A family buys a home within less than a half mile of the airport, directly under the traffic pattern. Then they start to complain about aircraft noise on a daily basis. The husband had a hatred of helicopters in particular and demanded the city restrict helicopters from the airport and threatened a lawsuit.

Needless to say, it never went anywhere.

When you live in close proximity of an airport you do not get to choose which aircraft noise you like and dislike.
 
Rotor&Wing said:
Another NIMBY. If airplane noise bothers you why do you live close to the airport?
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LMAO!!! Pookies = NIMBY. :no: That's funny right there. Honestly, though, that can't be further from the truth. Pookies = Airplane Geek. :yes:
 
> Needless to say, it never went anywhere.

Do you mean that common sense actually prevailed?
 
CJones said:
LMAO!!! Pookies = NIMBY. :no: That's funny right there. Honestly, though, that can't be further from the truth. Pookies = Airplane Geek. :yes:
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A geek to be... shall we say... appreciated? Maybe even admired? :D













:devil:
 
Rotor&Wing said:
Just reminds me of what happened at my home airport a few years ago. A family buys a home within less than a half mile of the airport, directly under the traffic pattern. Then they start to complain about aircraft noise on a daily basis. The husband had a hatred of helicopters in particular and demanded the city restrict helicopters from the airport and threatened a lawsuit.

Needless to say, it never went anywhere.

When you live in close proximity of an airport you do not get to choose which aircraft noise you like and dislike.
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Look where they stuck DIA? It's out in the middle of nowhere. Or, it was... then they started putting up large developments around it, particularly on the south side. Now, all those idiots are complaining about the noise.

I'm convinced many of them moved from Park Hill, the area that previously complained about Stapleton's existence. The same crowd that was so determined to shut down everything including force Continental to move all its maintenance to SLC.
 
KennyFlys said:
Look where they stuck DIA? It's out in the middle of nowhere.
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I can remember the uproar in my area when DIA first started operating. It wasn't so much the airliners that were going into DIA because they cross over pretty high, but they changed the arrival flow so that business jets going into KAPA are routed over my neighborhood at 8,000 feet (ground is 6,400). I wave hi to the cats whenever I come home from the southeast. You should've heard the people complain. One woman said the fumes from the jet fuel were making her sick. :loco:
 
Everskyward said:
I can remember the uproar in my area when DIA first started operating. It wasn't so much the airliners that were going into DIA because they cross over pretty high, but they changed the arrival flow so that business jets going into KAPA are routed over my neighborhood at 8,000 feet (ground is 6,400). I wave hi to the cats whenever I come home from the southeast. You should've heard the people complain. One woman said the fumes from the jet fuel were making her sick. :loco:
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I think she had issues long before the routing change. Often times, I don't smell the fumes on a ramp with several turning. She's a loon.
 
KennyFlys said:
Look where they stuck DIA? It's out in the middle of nowhere. Or, it was... then they started putting up large developments around it, particularly on the south side. Now, all those idiots are complaining about the noise.
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Yea, they built a bunch of homes right around DIA after it went into operation. I use to tell my crews that it's only a matter of time before the complaints begin.
 
KennyFlys said:
You're reading too much into it. She has actually posted in the past indicating she enjoys watching aircraft pass over. Her remark to which you refer was regarding the DHL aircraft being much louder than others.
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Probably running the old DC-8's without the upgraded engines.... ;)

KennyFlys said:
Look where they stuck DIA? It's out in the middle of nowhere. Or, it was... then they started putting up large developments around it, particularly on the south side. Now, all those idiots are complaining about the noise.

I'm convinced many of them moved from Park Hill, the area that previously complained about Stapleton's existence. The same crowd that was so determined to shut down everything including force Continental to move all its maintenance to SLC.
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ILN is a bit different. It's nearly halfway between Cincinnati and Columbus... and it's an old AF base. ILN will never bring the development that DIA did because CVG will never shut down (forcing pax to ILN) and Columbus has several good airports already in existance, including CHM and Rickenbacher.

The only way ILN will bring significant development is if WN or B6 decides to build a facility at ILN and take on DL in DL's highest-fare market. WN operates out of CMH, B6 and FL are in Dayton. ILN is close enough to DAY that the competition there becomes a factor. CVG is currently underutilized due to DL's pullback and the addition of a third N/S runway.

IF DL pulls out of CVG after the NW merger, then I could see others moving in ala PIT. CVG has the passenger infrastructure in-place... ILN doesn't.

Then there is the highway access issue.

I suspect that a fully-developed ILN could draw from both Cincinnati and Columbus, but there's too much invested at CVG and CMH for the airport operators to let them go.
 
Rotor&Wing said:
Another NIMBY. If airplane noise bothers you why do you live close to the airport?
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Because it was not in the brochure! The apt manager failed to tell us and it just so happened that 19 was down for repairs that particular day, so we didn't get to see the airliners pass directly over the complex at 300 ft!! :rofl:
 
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