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On the final stages of the perfect Arc to LOC BC, the autopilot and turbulence had the majority of my attention. The gear did not.

Some might say that's the 337's natural condition.
 

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I'm going after the mechanic for improper preventative maintenance.
 
Cpt_Kirk said:
On the final stages of the perfect Arc to LOC BC, the autopilot and turbulence had the majority of my attention.

Some might say that's the 337's natural condition.
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Nice landing. You're upright and stable and other than having to climb up out of the cockpit it looks great.
 
Remind me not to fly with you in a simulator! Any day in a real retract! :D

You obviously cannot fly a simulated plane correctly.

David
 
Well, I'm happy to say that I put the gear down (and the flaps) on my second full approach of the night (VOR/DME RWY15 into KMTN). Accuracy on the DME is critical in that one.
 

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I was doing sim training for a Cessna Conquest I. We were practicing engine failures after takeoff. After takeoff and failure the instructor would put the plane (sim) back on the runway and then turn it back on for the next run. Well, we forgot to put the gear selector in the down position....and the sim settled down just like a plane would without the gear.
 
BillTIZ said:
Actually there are three types.

Those that have not
Those that have
And

Those that will again

May you (me) always be in the 1st group.
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YUP! Our shop repaired the same 172RG three times before the owner learned to put the wheels down BEFORE landing. :rolleyes2:
 
Norman said:
YUP! Our shop repaired the same 172RG three times before the owner learned to put the wheels down BEFORE landing. :rolleyes2:
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I'm told one gentlemen with a 177RG is up to at least six; personally though I've only seen him do it once, but I've heard the story through more than one person.
 
BillTIZ said:
Actually there are three types.

Those that have not
Those that have
And

Those that will again

May you (me) always be in the 1st group.
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Thanks for the correction Bill. Knocking wood for both of us
 
You're not the only one to have done that. Preoccupied with flying the difficult approach, I failed the basic GUMPS check too before. :(
It was a landing competition in the sim to fly the best straight approach in a "conventional" twin with one engine shut down. I was concentrating hard on flying it straight and on the rwy centerline .... when I hear on the frequency "well, he's about the disqualify ..." and as I look down on my panel just as I flare, my brain screams "oh sh**, no green" ..... *SCRAAAAAAAAAAAPE*
To my defense (poor, I know), I was a low time student pilot back then. And the lesson I learned from this encounter: always do a GUMPS check and always check on final that you've done a GUMPs check. "Do I have at least two white and 3 green? Good to go".
 
Our glider club has an SOP where if you're flying a retract, on downwind you call gear down and locked. If you don't, someone will chirp at you. So far it has kept everyone honest.
 
Bobanna said:
GUMPS works in just about all A/C. Do it three times (min): abeam, turn to base, turn to final...and I call it the 200 foot check (short final). Oh, and I teach: G --gear
U - undercarriage
M )
P ) - make positively sure gear is down and locked
S )
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In my 172 I do CGUMPS as a bit of a mantra...

Carbheat
Gas on both
Undercarriage, tap my breaks.. so when I go to a complex it forces me to think about it.
Power/Props.
Seatbelts, switches.

I've not had a gearup landing yet!
 
What's wrong? Did the rear engine overheat?
 
OkieAviator said:
In my 172 I do CGUMPS as a bit of a mantra...

Carbheat
Gas on both
Undercarriage, tap my breaks.. so when I go to a complex it forces me to think about it.
Power/Props.
Seatbelts, switches.

I've not had a gearup landing yet!
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GUMPSC is better! LOL

David
 
OkieAviator said:
In my 172 I do CGUMPS as a bit of a mantra...

Carbheat
Gas on both
Undercarriage, tap my breaks.. so when I go to a complex it forces me to think about it.
Power/Props.
Seatbelts, switches.

I've not had a gearup landing yet!
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Not to be insulting, but I'm sure a lot of the guys who have had gear-ups had said something similar earlier in their flying careers. :nonod:
 
I'll never say never.

But I say out loud, several times on approach "got a wheel, got another wheel, got a nose wheel, got a light (Cessna has one green and one amber)." I have two gear mirrors that someone... er.. crafted so I can see all three wheels in the daytime. I try to make this a habit but, yeah, I've only got about 100 RG hours. Hopefully I still do that at 500 and 1000 hours+ and under duress.
 
petrolero said:
I'll never say never.

But I say out loud, several times on approach "got a wheel, got another wheel, got a nose wheel, got a light (Cessna has one green and one amber)." I have two gear mirrors that someone... er.. crafted so I can see all three wheels in the daytime. I try to make this a habit but, yeah, I've only got about 100 RG hours. Hopefully I still do that at 500 and 1000 hours+ and under duress.
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You must get real nervous at night when all you get is a light.
Imagine all those low wingers that never see the gear.
 
BigBadLou said:
You're not the only one to have done that. Preoccupied with flying the difficult approach, I failed the basic GUMPS check too before. :(
It was a landing competition in the sim to fly the best straight approach in a "conventional" twin with one engine shut down. I was concentrating hard on flying it straight and on the rwy centerline .... when I hear on the frequency "well, he's about the disqualify ..." and as I look down on my panel just as I flare, my brain screams "oh sh**, no green" ..... *SCRAAAAAAAAAAAPE*
To my defense (poor, I know), I was a low time student pilot back then. And the lesson I learned from this encounter: always do a GUMPS check and always check on final that you've done a GUMPs check. "Do I have at least two white and 3 green? Good to go".
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If it was realistic it would go "tatatatatatatatatatatatatata SCRAAAAAAAAAPE":rofl:
 
Bobanna said:
GUMPS works in just about all A/C. Do it three times (min): abeam, turn to base, turn to final...and I call it the 200 foot check (short final). Oh, and I teach: G --gear
U - undercarriage
M ) - Make sure the gear is down
P ) - make positively sure gear is down and locked
S ) - sure the gear is down?
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Add steps from my Primary Flight Instructor...

John
 
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