Go-around issue

What would you do if you only saw approach lights at mins? Configure at 100' above TDZE?


Already answered above. Not necessarily the best option, but not difficult in the slightest. Not recommended without practicing it either, but we don't do anything without practicing it.

The aircraft itself is less stable at 60 than it is at 90, and if you get slow (especially in a 182) below 60, you'll start to sink like a stone.


Hmm. Less stable, eh? In what way? This should be good. I haven't met a 182 yet that even wants to drop a wingtip bumbling around in slow flight with the ASI bouncing off the bottom peg, unless it's so absurdly loaded or out of rig that it's not going to fly straight in cruise, either.

Sink like a stone at 60? Not even close.

Ever pull the power in a Hershey bar Piper? Heh. Now that's coming down like a brick. The only time I've seen VSI numbers close to 1000 fpm in a 182 with power off and flaps at 40 is if you attempt to maintain altitude. A glide at 60 with full flaps isn't going to be brick like. At least not compared to some other infamous bricks out there. It's no Pawnee. :)

You're not going to HOLD 60 without lowering the nose, with flap 40, that I'll certainly agree to.

The flaps don't come down instantly, the roll down at a consistent and well known Cessna pace. The pitch over is smooth, and a one time deal.

Don't really have to look at at ASI to do it with enough practice, either. Set a deck angle, it'll be close enough.

You're trying to get below 55 at the flare, and you're starting at 90+. In my airplane you're trying to get way *below* 55, but I'm trying to convert to standard 182 speeds here to show its a big fat slow wing ... and putting down final at 60 just isn't in the cards for most of us, most of the time. Sure ATC will wait for you, but they don't like it. And neither will the line of jets they're stacking up behind you.

(Definitely not if some inadvertent icing was encountered, you'll just maximize your time building ice.)

Way harder to get from 90 to 60 in the flare with only 10 flap hanging out. You'll chew up all sorts of runway waiting for that to happen and extend the time you have to fly the plane in close proximity to the runway.

No harm, no foul if you want to fly the whole thing that slow. There's just no significant reason to. Flying it as a decelerated approach slowing from the marker to DA, isn't a great idea either, since it'll screw up any backup timing you might have done.

If someone feels better flying it on 40 knots above where it should be for a decent landing, they can. Won't bother me a bit that they did it. I won't be. It's silly-fast for the 182 wing and un-holy fast for mine.
 
I'm sure I could also do it in my airplane (well, the plane I fly). That doesn't necessarily make it a wise decision. Actually it makes it so unwise the company says NO, and FOQUA (sp?) will tell on you. Completely configured and on speed with engines spoiled by 1000 agl, and 500 if visual is mandatory. I understand it's a bigger airplane, but those are good parameters for all.

Do you mean engines spooled? What RPM would that translate to for a 172?
 
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