GM reinvented the tailgate

And I told my wife when I bought a new truck in 2015 it would be the last one I need.....
 
retpd2001 said:
And I told my wife when I bought a new truck in 2015 it would be the last one I need.....
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LOL

My 2003 Silverado was supposed to be the last new vehicle. Even though it only has 124k on it, it is not going to last.
 
Right... cuz I do all that in a suit.

In other news, GMC is reporting record sales in replacement tailgates. In an apparent rash of thefts across the United States, GMC has had to ramp up production of their tailgate line to meet the demand.
 
While I commend GM on trying to innovate, I can imagine it'll end up like most of Ford's tailgate steps being mostly unused. I can't imagine the tailgate theft rate on something like that, or the repair cost for a minor ding/accident. Ford/Dodge both have power-release tailgates already, so nothing new there.
 
I'm a Chevy/GMC guy. I've only owned one Ford in my life and it gave me a lot of issues. To be fair, it was old when I got it. My last truck was a 2004 Silverado I bought with 12K miles and drove it to 230K miles when the transmission went out. I used this as justification to buy a new truck, but should have just thrown a transmission in it. The only things I ever replaced in 230K miles was the water pump and the alternator!

I think GM has missed their target audience on the new designs. They redesigned the outside of the Silverado, but the interior looks a lot like my 2015. If I'm buying a brand new truck, I want it to be a completely new design.

I hate admitting it, but if I were to buy a new truck today, it would probably be an F-150.
 
UGH. More crap to break. My 2002 Silverado with 211K on it does what I need. Sadly the rust is going to probably kill it before the engine dies. My motto now is don't fix it until it breaks and then do only what you have to to keep it going. My latest repair was splicing a line on the low pressure power steering line that rusted out. So far so good.
 
Lowflynjack said:
I'm a Chevy/GMC guy. I've only owned one Ford in my life and it gave me a lot of issues. To be fair, it was old when I got it. My last truck was a 2004 Silverado I bought with 12K miles and drove it to 230K miles when the transmission went out. I used this as justification to buy a new truck, but should have just thrown a transmission in it. The only things I ever replaced in 230K miles was the water pump and the alternator!

I think GM has missed their target audience on the new designs. They redesigned the outside of the Silverado, but the interior looks a lot like my 2015. If I'm buying a brand new truck, I want it to be a completely new design.

I hate admitting it, but if I were to buy a new truck today, it would probably be an F-150.
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The newer Silverados are garbage. So plastic looking inside and out. If I didn't live in the rust belt I would buy another early 2000 Silverado from the South and keep it forever.
 
DFH65 said:
My 2002 Silverado with 211K on it does what I need. Sadly the rust is going to probably kill it before the engine dies.
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My 2002 has about 250k on it. I "retired it" to the farm years ago and my daily driver is a 2016. But I still work the sh*t out of the 2002. Pull heavy trailers, etc. It has the little 4.8 L in it and it just keeps on going...pulling numerous heavy trailers up and over the smoky mountains, 70mph...screaming along in 2nd gear. Like you, I haven't had to do much to it. Especially considering all I've put it thru.

And Chevy trucks are definitely the most comfortable. I've had both Ford and (ugggh) Dodge and hated them on long trips.
 
While the tailgate is cool and all I cant imagine it working real well after hauling some dirt or gravel. It will be 10 plus years of depreciation before I will know. I still like GM the best but the only way I would guy one is a 3/4 ton or higher. I hate the 5.3 and you cannot get the 6.2 unless you get a fully loaded truck. Until they change that I would get a 3/4 work truck or something else. I Don't like how Fords ride feel and look. While Ram has hit it out of the park I am still skeptical of their reliability. I would probably go Tundra if I had to buy a new truck right now.
 
until they have beer cooler storage and a retractable stripper pole eman aint interested.
 
SkyDog58 said:
That will certainly make loading all my bags of cash easier.
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But you will have to deal with taking bags of cash to the dealer first to get one in the first place to use for hauling the remaining bags of (illegally gotten) cash.
 
DFH65 said:
The newer Silverados are garbage. So plastic looking inside and out. If I didn't live in the rust belt I would buy another early 2000 Silverado from the South and keep it forever.
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The engines for the "new generation" 2008 and up are not as good as the 2007 (early) and older. This is based on demand and prices I ask between the two populations.
 
Lachlan said:
That design will come in handy for the 1%ers who buy them to haul a couple bags of mulch home from the store, because that ain’t gonna be used as a real work truck.
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I think that's more like the 90% of people that are buying luxury trucks...
 
Lachlan said:
because that ain’t gonna be used as a real work truck
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From what I have seen about the salvage yard, very few of the "Denali" version of the GMC's ever are
 
Wonder how many people are going to get ****ed at GM when they drop that thing to the full open postion and don’t pull the hitch stinger first..
 
Lachlan said:
That design will come in handy for the 1%ers who buy them to haul a couple bags of mulch home from the store, because that ain’t gonna be used as a real work truck.
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BS

I can see it being extremely handy on jobsites. Especially early on before a job office is set up, which can take a few weeks to a month on larger jobs.

AggieMike88 said:
From what I have seen about the salvage yard, very few of the "Denali" version of the GMC's ever are
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True dat!
 
They have to justify a 40-60k price tag somehow. I guess a few low cost flip up panels on a tailgate is how they are trying to do it. I still think the first company to go back to making a basic and reliable truck that doesn't cost much more than a car would make a killing. I would love a new (or even slightly used) truck but no way I can justify the price tag.
 
timwinters said:
BS

I can see it being extremely handy on jobsites. Especially early on before a job office is set up, which can take a few weeks to a month on larger jobs.
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Ok. It would definitely be “handy,” but very few with that trim package will be driven off the lot and right to a worksite where they’ll get used as work trucks hauling materials. That ad almost looks like a parody of a real truck ad. Can you imagine a thecreactions of a bunch of guys standing around a construction site and someone pulls up with that rig and pops the tailgate remote? Then drops the step and climbs up to unload a sheet of plywood? Haaaaaaa haaaaaa!!! Yeah.... no.
 
I'm with @timwinters on this. It actually does look very versatile. I'd want that on my Ram. I can see all of those functions having uses for me, and I do use my truck.

Step? Yes, I'd love that. Even though I'm 6'2" with a stock height 4x4, a step would make it nicer to get in. I got convinced on that when @jesse brought his F-150 by which has a step built-in. I'd use that all the time. It's enough that I'd consider buying a new tailgate for my Ram if I could find one that had that (or more features).

Way to extend capacity? Yep, that'd be great. Even though I've got an 8' bed I still end up with items longer than 8' and a built-in way to hold those would be convenient.

The workbench doesn't seem particularly useful, I just drop the tailgate for that.
 
kmacht said:
... I still think the first company to go back to making a basic and reliable truck that doesn't cost much more than a car would make a killing. ...
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Everybody makes them; you can drive it home for under $30K. But they are NEVER found on dealer lots.
Edit: It looks as if you can buy a bare full-size F-150 for less than an equivalent Colorado.
 
Kenny Phillips said:
Everybody makes them; you can drive it home for under $30K. But they are NEVER found on dealer lots.
Edit: It looks as if you can buy a bare full-size F-150 for less than an equivalent Colorado.
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If you talk actual transaction prices you can get a comparable Silverado for less than a Colorado. You have to really need a smaller truck to justify them. The full size ones get within a rounding error in MPG, cost less, are more capable, and have more room.
 
I just step on the back tire and swing my leg over the bed rail to get into the bed of the truck and I ain't no young buck! All that Gucci tailgate crap is for the soft palm crowd.
 
Brad Smith said:
I just step on the back tire and swing my leg over the bed rail to get into the bed of the truck and I ain't no young buck! All that Gucci tailgate crap is for the soft palm crowd.
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Seriously. Such a dichotomy with modern trucks. I mean, the grills keep getting more and more ridiculous looking. How is this not the physical truck manifestation of Biff Tannen

You get this ridiculous looking grill and then a heated steering wheel and ever pamper feature you can think of, with an absurd tailgate. I am curious how well a tailgate like that will last after years of actual jobsite abuse

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I only have the 5.5' bed on my F-150 Screw, but it has the bed-extender. I think I'd rather have the bed extender than a little flip-up lip, but that's just me. I can attach ropes/tie downs to my bed extender and it is about 18" high, so it'll work with more than just 5-6 sheets of plywood.

Grum.Man said:
While the tailgate is cool and all I cant imagine it working real well after hauling some dirt or gravel. It will be 10 plus years of depreciation before I will know. I still like GM the best but the only way I would guy one is a 3/4 ton or higher. I hate the 5.3 and you cannot get the 6.2 unless you get a fully loaded truck. Until they change that I would get a 3/4 work truck or something else. I Don't like how Fords ride feel and look. While Ram has hit it out of the park I am still skeptical of their reliability. I would probably go Tundra if I had to buy a new truck right now.
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Yup, I was thinking "just wait until you haul some dirt/sand and it gets lodged in all those slides/guide-ways". My '07 GMC 5.3L engine is fine for reliability, but it burns 2+ quarts every 5K miles because of that crappy 4/8 cylinder-decativation "active fuel management" design. I also have an '07 Pontiac with the 5.3L that has the same problems, as well as a horrible transmission shudder that occurs because of the same AFM design. I had to have it tuned out to stop the vibration. I like the new F-150s and that 3.5L EB engine, but wouldn't pay the price they want for it. I like the Rams, too, but like you I don't trust them for long-term reliability seeing what they (Dodge) have typically done the past 20-25 years.
 
Tantalum said:
Seriously. Such a dichotomy with modern trucks. I mean, the grills keep getting more and more ridiculous looking. How is this not the physical truck manifestation of Biff Tannen

You get this ridiculous looking grill and then a heated steering wheel and ever pamper feature you can think of, with an absurd tailgate. I am curious how well a tailgate like that will last after years of actual jobsite abuse

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Such a hideous chud of a vehicle, lol. GMs truck designs have been progressively uglier it seems.
 
Kenny Phillips said:
Everybody makes them; you can drive it home for under $30K. But they are NEVER found on dealer lots.
Edit: It looks as if you can buy a bare full-size F-150 for less than an equivalent Colorado.
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People don't want to feel cheap though or "bare bones" though, that's the thing. I wish you could buy the same kinds of trucks you can buy in Australia.. like a proper Toyota Land Cruiser for example, or things like that. Simple, proper, useful trucks.. something I won't feel bad about having my dog shake mud all over the back of it or if a carton of oil spills
 
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