Fury - The Worst Movie In The History Of The Universe
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Matthew
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About the only missing from that list is boobies.
wanttaja
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The language is no worse than other current movies (the F-word is freely used) and there's no nudity or overt sex.
But keep in mind, this is *hard-core* gore. Not just spurting blood or limbs coming free. Heads shattering, white phosphorus burning, intestines trailing, pieces of faces lying around. American soldiers casually (and not so casually) executing prisoners. Men on fire shooting themselves in the head. Men on fire, and watching soldiers laughing about it.
Personally, I'd think it's more than I'd expose a 9-year-old to. But I'm kind of a fuddy-duddy.....
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Agree 100%. It's no movie for a 9 year old.
Porn would be preferable.
red4golf
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I'm looking forward to seeing it as I have been out of the country since it opened. I am a Tank Commander, served in the Germany of the 1990's and knew many former German Soldiers from the WWII period, most of my family served in the Infantry during that war and I am a combat vet under 3 presidents in the famed M1A1 Abrams.
Most of my tank company and all of the tank platoon that I run has seen the movie and loved it. Now for the grumpy old platoon sergeant to see it...
I plan on going to see the movie with an open mind and will try to remember that it is Holywood.
Tanking is the best job I've ever had.
Most of my tank company and all of the tank platoon that I run has seen the movie and loved it. Now for the grumpy old platoon sergeant to see it...
I plan on going to see the movie with an open mind and will try to remember that it is Holywood.
Tanking is the best job I've ever had.
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Looking forward to your PIREP, red4golf! I enjoyed it.
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I rather liked Tank Girl. Lori Petty was cute. Then there is the all time favorite... Kelly's Heroes. The tank commander was a gas! What a cast and crew.
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I remember seeing Kelly's Heroes projected on the side of a warehouse in Qatar in the summer of 2003. It was the perect annalogy...The good guys ran through the bad guys lines, the Generals didn't know where the front lines were, intel was all hosed up and in the end it was all about the gold (or oil). Oh yeah, and the Marine Corps Band got sent to infantry school just in case.
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I think you'd be pretty upset at how they portrayed the German soldiers.
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Have to admit that quotes from Donald Sutherland in "Kelly's Heroes" came over me while watching "Fury":
"The only way I have to stop a Tiger is to let it shoot holes in me...."
"It's a Mark 6...and we've got it by the ***"
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Thanks.. sounds like it is worse than Finding Private Ryan and some of the cartoons that are on now...
We'll put this one in a holding pattern...
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I watched this as well as a Youtube video with some of the same footage called "The Last Tank Battle in Cologne". I fly to Cologne all the time and the scene where the Americans are bailing out of their damaged tank, I have stood right there and bought a McDonalds hamburger. I haven't taken the time but will soon to visit the SS Museum in Cologne. Supposed to be an all day visit.
Question? Why wasn't the "Dom" the large cathedral destroyed by bombers? Goering said that the Brits and American bombers were too bad and would destroyed it, so it was off limits but they absolutely leveled everything around it AND they used it as an IP for bombing runs elsewhere.
If you like WW2 museums, I highly recommend "The Admiral Nimitz War of the Pacific Museum" in Fredricksberg TX....you wife can shop all day and you can see one of the best Pacific War museums in the world.
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Sounds good. I just added Cologne to our list of things to see in Germany next year.
We've been to the Nimitz Museum several times, and it is excellent. The first time we discovered it was by accident, and we just laughed at the concept of a museum of WWII in the Pacific Theater being in landlocked Fredericksburg, TX. Then, we went in, and were blown away. It is a top-quality museum, equal to or better than any war museum in the US.
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That is the problem I have with many U.S. WWII movies. Whether it be your average soldier, sailor or pilot, etc they were just fighting for their country, and comrades, as were we. Now their leadership on the other hand.
If "Fury" is another "Germans are all bad" movie, I won't watch it.
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The bad transformers were the dark colored ones. Good transformers were bright beautiful colors. Oh wait, forget the colors. Bad transformers were the ones that our soldiers were shooting at.
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[Semi-Spoiler Alert]That is the problem I have with many U.S. WWII movies. Whether it be your average soldier, sailor or pilot, etc they were just fighting for their country, and comrades, as were we. Now their leadership on the other hand.
If "Fury" is another "Germans are all bad" movie, I won't watch it.
I think the movie is a realistic depiction on how the *American soldiers* viewed the Germans.
There are some arrogant German civilians, there are some ordinary people. There is an ordinary soldat who becomes a victim due to a sartorial choice, shown as a man who just wants to live and return to his family. Civilian Nazis are shown, but it's a limited scene and certainly not a symbol for the overall German people. But, it's the kind of thing that DID happen.
The SS is the primary "bad guy" in this film, but I don't think it's over the top. The SS *was* bad, and the atrocities it commits in the movie are the kinds of things it did.
The irony is that the ultimate act of humanity in the movie is performed by an anonymous SS trooper.
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I agree. Great tank movie and realistic.
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My personal opinion is that violence by itself is okay. Sex by itself is okay. Its sex and violence that's really offensive.God forbid the kid sees a nipple shot after seeing someone get their head blown off.
Yeah, I won't argue with that, but I'm still not hip on glorified violence in pop culture.
red4golf
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We still do. It is what happens when you put a bunch of rough men in to a tank with about the same amount of room as a normal sedan for days or weeks at a time. I make my living in a tank as a tank commander and platoon sergeant.
I just saw the movie today, PIREP to follow.
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I liked natural born killers.
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As bad as Benjamin button starring none other than Brad pitt?. Truly an awful movie.
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I suspect, after literally years of combat, they treated OUTSIDERS like dirt. And that's what Norman was.
I don't think this is unusual, for tight-knit groups in a high-stress situation.
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I looked it up and watched it last night, it was pretty good but I couldn't buy the idea that the Russian helicopter would land in the middle of the desert so they could all drink water out of a poisoned mud hole.
Interesting to see how we viewed the Mujaheddin as noble back in the 1980's when they were killing Russians, not so much today when they kill Americans.
It's a classic
red4golf
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Sorry that it took so long but I've been very busy.
I loved this movie and didn't feel like it was the tank version of Red Tails like somebody said earlier. Yes there were the usual Hollywood mistakes and artistic license but overall it was pretty well done.
Remember that it is a movie and over dramatized because, trust me on this, real war doesn’t sell movie tickets.
Yes tank crews are pretty rough on each other, especially to the new guys. Multiply that by years in combat like in Fury and you get a version of what was presented on the screen. Of course Hollywood went a little overboard with it in the prisoner scene but the new guy really can be the death of you.
As far as the portrayal of the Germans is concerned, I found it to be fair. The group of civilian Nazis at the table was an accurate representation of a portion of the population of the time. I have heard stories like this from my uncle who was an infantryman that ran across a few situations like that in real life as well as from former German Soldiers of the period. Things like this took place in the Pacific as well.
The German Army was represented as a tough and capable force even though they were relying on the Hitler Youth at the time Fury took place. As far as the SS were concerned, the foot Soldier was represented as a competent and dangerous opponent while the Officers were the monsters. Again, from the people I have known on both sides, this seems to be a fairly accurate representation as well. Remember that the SS were supposed to be the elite “true believers” of the Nazi regime.
The attitude of the American Soldiers towards the German Soldiers was also pretty accurate. You make the enemy in to monsters in an effort to make your job easier. If the enemy does things to help facilitate this, so be it.
Not the best movie I’ve ever seen as far as the dialogue is concerned and the tank tactics were a little lacking, as seen through this tank platoon sergeant’s eyes, but a good movie about a day in the life of a tank crew none the less.
I loved this movie and didn't feel like it was the tank version of Red Tails like somebody said earlier. Yes there were the usual Hollywood mistakes and artistic license but overall it was pretty well done.
Remember that it is a movie and over dramatized because, trust me on this, real war doesn’t sell movie tickets.
Yes tank crews are pretty rough on each other, especially to the new guys. Multiply that by years in combat like in Fury and you get a version of what was presented on the screen. Of course Hollywood went a little overboard with it in the prisoner scene but the new guy really can be the death of you.
As far as the portrayal of the Germans is concerned, I found it to be fair. The group of civilian Nazis at the table was an accurate representation of a portion of the population of the time. I have heard stories like this from my uncle who was an infantryman that ran across a few situations like that in real life as well as from former German Soldiers of the period. Things like this took place in the Pacific as well.
The German Army was represented as a tough and capable force even though they were relying on the Hitler Youth at the time Fury took place. As far as the SS were concerned, the foot Soldier was represented as a competent and dangerous opponent while the Officers were the monsters. Again, from the people I have known on both sides, this seems to be a fairly accurate representation as well. Remember that the SS were supposed to be the elite “true believers” of the Nazi regime.
The attitude of the American Soldiers towards the German Soldiers was also pretty accurate. You make the enemy in to monsters in an effort to make your job easier. If the enemy does things to help facilitate this, so be it.
Not the best movie I’ve ever seen as far as the dialogue is concerned and the tank tactics were a little lacking, as seen through this tank platoon sergeant’s eyes, but a good movie about a day in the life of a tank crew none the less.
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Thanks for a detailed review!
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Thanks,for the review, red4golf!
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This finally hit Redbox and I picked it up last night. I wasn't sure what to expect between the OP's thoughts of it being the worst movie ever and Jay saying it was the best movie ever. I'm probably closer to the OP's line of thinking.
I don't mind the brutality. You don't rent a war movie expecting love scenes. (please, spare me on Pearl Harbor and Flyboys) The scene w/ the two Frauleins added something to the script. I liked the part where Pitt asked about the SS officer hanging civilians.
I don't expect movies to be completely believable. But like someone else pointed out, 4 guys taking on 200-300 SS troops and defeating most of them? Climbing on top of the tank after a few hours and firing on them.. and not being surrounded? Popping smoke in a light breeze that seems to last through the evening, night and next day? SS troop shines a flashlight on Norman and decides to let him go?
Redbox has (or used to have) a policy of refunding the rental price if you don't like the movie. (betcha didn't know that) I'm almost tempted to take them up on it for the first time.
I don't mind the brutality. You don't rent a war movie expecting love scenes. (please, spare me on Pearl Harbor and Flyboys) The scene w/ the two Frauleins added something to the script. I liked the part where Pitt asked about the SS officer hanging civilians.
I don't expect movies to be completely believable. But like someone else pointed out, 4 guys taking on 200-300 SS troops and defeating most of them? Climbing on top of the tank after a few hours and firing on them.. and not being surrounded? Popping smoke in a light breeze that seems to last through the evening, night and next day? SS troop shines a flashlight on Norman and decides to let him go?
Redbox has (or used to have) a policy of refunding the rental price if you don't like the movie. (betcha didn't know that) I'm almost tempted to take them up on it for the first time.