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murphey

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Released this morning.

But----it REQUIRES iOS 8!

Rats.
 
that's okay, iOS 8.3 released today so maybe apple finally fixed things...then again, maybe they didn't...
 
Looks like I'll be sticking with FF 6.7.

Don't really feel like slowing my ipad down with a fatter iOS.

"Upgraded" my iphone by accident to 8.2 from 6.something, dumb move, slower, less function, but I did get cool looking icons and gestures :rolleyes2:

I wish they would make the newer operating systems leaner. Before the accidental "upgrade" my 4S, which I kept due to it being unlocked and a better smaller form factor and better looks IMO, would bring up internet pages, process email, open the calendar and the other few things I use it for just as fast as my girls iphone 6. Now with 8.2 not so much.
 
I have updated both, have an I pad air. The Internet seems to run a little slower. Other than that it's fine.
 
Several months ago FF stopped working somehow (forgot), got in touch with technical help almost immediately and they inquired which version of FF was using, I gave them the info and they said I HAD to upgrade, which means I HAD to also upgrade my iPad as well. I am a believer if it is working don't f- with it, but I had to. Luckily everything continued to work, right now I have been ignoring the iPad update for a year now probably only a matter of time before I have to get the new pretty icons and changed methodologies which add no value. I am not an old fart, but getting there.
 
I hate emoticons. Apple had decreed that everyone should use emoticons, hence the key on the keyboard to turn on emoticon keyboard. In order to do this, the left numerical key has been made smaller and the asinine emoticon key placed in between the numerical key and the space bar.

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to remove it, not even in the General page.

Stupid.
 
murphey said:
I hate emoticons. Apple had decreed that everyone should use emoticons, hence the key on the keyboard to turn on emoticon keyboard. In order to do this, the left numerical key has been made smaller and the asinine emoticon key placed in between the numerical key and the space bar.

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to remove it, not even in the General page.

Stupid.
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:yeahthat: :loco: :sigh:
 
I don't get it. I've done every iOS update as they've been released and I can't figure out what guys are complaining about. My current model iPads and iPhone 6+ run circles around my older iPads and iPhones. No hiccups at all. I must be lucky? Naw, my wife, kid, son-in-law, friends, employees, etc all agree. :)
 
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Some people don't like change.
 
Stewartb said:
I don't get it. I've done every iOS update as they've been released and I can't figure out what guys are complaining about. My current model iPads and iPhone 6+ run circles around my older iPads and iPhones. No hiccups at all. I must be lucky? Naw, my wife, kid, son-in-law, friends, employees, etc all agree. :)
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Some people don't have the money to upgrade to the latest model iPad every time one comes out, and some folks object to the 'throw-away" society that constant upgrading of hardware entails. It's one thing if it's a phone that gets beaten up on a daily basis.... it's entirely another with an iPad that gets used occasionally in a more controlled environment.

YMMV.
 
wsuffa said:
Some people don't have the money to upgrade to the latest model iPad every time one comes out, and some folks object to the 'throw-away" society that constant upgrading of hardware entails. It's one thing if it's a phone that gets beaten up on a daily basis.... it's entirely another with an iPad that gets used occasionally in a more controlled environment.

YMMV.
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I work for a tech company...in the silicon manufacturing space. I use my iPad on the couch for web surfing (PoA) and in the cockpit flying.

I have a 1.3 year old ipad mini. I've yet to update to ios 8 series as Apple always tends to add bloatware and making things slower. They are adding features to add features that probably nobody uses. Programatically, even if a feature is disabled, it can still slow down the tablet a bit. A quick "if feature is active, do this, otherwise do this" instead of "just do this" check still consumes CPU cycles, which consumes battery life, which means less times on the couch posting on PoA. :-)

The rest of my life runs Android and life is always good.
 
8 has been fine on my devices so far but it's a big laundry list of fixed in this one, and remember, most coders create two bugs for every bug they fix... LOL...

This release includes improved performance, bug fixes, and a redesigned Emoji keyboard. Changes include:
Improved performance for:
App launch
App responsiveness
Messages
Wi-Fi
Control Center
Safari tabs
3rd-party keyboards
Keyboard shortcuts
Simplified Chinese keyboard
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth fixes
Fixes an issue where you could be continuously prompted for login credentials
Addresses an issue where some devices disconnect intermittently from Wi-Fi networks
Fixes an issue where hands-free phone calls could become disconnected
Fixes an issue where audio playback could stop working with some bluetooth speakers
Orientation and rotation fixes
Addresses an issue that sometimes prevented rotating back to portrait after having rotated to landscape
Improves performance and stability issues that occurred when rotating the device between portrait and landscape
Fixes an issue where device orientation appeared upside down after pulling the iPhone 6 Plus from your pocket
Resolves an issue that sometimes prevented apps from rotating to correct orientation after switching apps in multitasking
Messages fixes
Addresses issues that caused group messages to sometimes split
Fixes an issue that sometimes removed the ability to forward or delete individual messages
Resolves an issue that sometimes prevented a preview from appearing when taking a photo in Messages
Adds the ability to report junk messages directly from the Messages app
Adds the ability to filter out iMessages that are not sent by your contacts
Family Sharing fixes
Fixes a bug where certain apps would not launch or update on family members’ devices
Fixes a bug that prevented family members from downloading certain free apps
Increased reliability for Ask to Buy notifications
CarPlay fixes
Fixes an issue where Maps could come up as a black screen
Fixes an issue where the UI could be incorrectly rotated
Fixes an issue where the keyboard could appear on the CarPlay screen when it shouldn't
Enterprise fixes
Improves reliability of installing and updating enterprise apps
Corrects the time zone of Calendar events created in IBM Notes
Fixes a problem that could cause web clip icons to become generic after restarting
Improves reliability of saving the password for a web proxy
Exchange out-of-office message can now be edited separately for external replies
Improves recovery of Exchange accounts from temporary connection problems
Improves compatibility of VPN and web proxy solutions
Allows use of physical keyboards to log into Safari web sheets, such as for joining a public Wi-Fi network
Fixes an issue that caused Exchange meetings with long notes to be truncated
Accessibility fixes
Fixes an issue where using the back button in Safari causes VoiceOver gestures to not respond
Fixes an issue where VoiceOver focus becomes unreliable in draft Mail messages
Fixes an issue where Braille Screen Input cannot be used to type text in forms on webpages
Fixes an issue where toggling Quick Nav on a Braille Display announces that Quick Nav is off
Fixes an issue keeping app icons from being moveable on home screen when VoiceOver is enabled
Fixes an issue in Speak Screen where speech will not start again after pausing
Other improvements and bug fixes
Introduces a redesigned Emoji keyboard with over 300 new characters
iCloud Photo Library has been optimized to work with the new Photos app on OS X 10.10.3 and is now out of beta
Improves the pronunciation of street names during turn-by-turn navigation in Maps
Includes support for Baum VarioUltra 20 and VarioUltra 40 braille displays
Improves the display of Spotlight results when Reduce Transparency is turned on
Adds Italic and Underline format options for iPhone 6 Plus landscape keyboard
Adds the ability to remove shipping and billing addresses used with Apple Pay
Additional language and country support for Siri: English (India, New Zealand), Danish (Denmark), Dutch (Netherlands), Portuguese (Brazil), Russian (Russia), Swedish (Sweden), Thai (Thailand), Turkish (Turkey)
Additional dictation languages: Arabic (Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates) and Hebrew (Israel)
Improves stability for Phone, Mail, Bluetooth connectivity, Photos, Safari tabs, Settings, Weather and Genius Playlists in Music
Addresses an issue where Slide to Unlock could fail to work on certain devices
Addresses an issue that sometimes prevented swiping to answer a phone call on the Lock screen
Addresses an issue that prevented opening links in Safari PDFs
Fixes an issue where selecting Clear History and Website Data in Safari Settings did not clear all data
Fixes an issue that prevented autocorrecting "FYI"
Addresses an issue where contextual predictions did not appear in Quick Reply
Fixes an issue where Maps did not enter night mode from hybrid mode
Resolves an issue that prevented initiating FaceTime calls from a browser or 3rd-party app using FaceTime URLs
Fixes an issue that sometimes prevented photos from properly exporting to Digital Camera Image folders on Windows
Fixes an issue that sometimes prevented an iPad backup from completing with iTunes
Fixes an issue that could cause Podcast downloads to stall when switching from Wi-Fi to cellular networks
Fixes an issue where remaining time on timer would sometimes incorrectly display as 00:00 on Lock screen
Fixes an issue that sometimes prevented adjusting call volume
Fixes an issue that caused the status bar to sometimes appear when it shouldn’t
For information on the security content of this update, please visit this website:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
 
murphey said:
I hate emoticons. Apple had decreed that everyone should use emoticons, hence the key on the keyboard to turn on emoticon keyboard. In order to do this, the left numerical key has been made smaller and the asinine emoticon key placed in between the numerical key and the space bar.

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to remove it, not even in the General page.

Stupid.
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Yes, cr-Apple does a lot of stupid things in each iOS release. Then they scramble to fix it in the next update release. Which creates even more bug due to the rushed nature of the bug-fix release. They haven't learned how to do the dev process in the last few decades. Shame. (if you knew the core sample of their developer force, you would understand :D )

I too suffer from their f***-up with the Shift key. It is unfortunate.

Word of advice: if you are not forced (by a higher power) to use iOS, please stay away from cr-Apple devices if you can, for leisure or whatever. Android is the way to go.

To stay on topic: if you have FF on a mobile device with iOS 7 or older, it is time to jump on the bandwagon and join the iOS 8 crowd. And yes, it is a big crowd, full of complaints, pitiful performance and a lot of bugs. Enjoy! :D
 
murphey said:
I hate emoticons. Apple had decreed that everyone should use emoticons, hence the key on the keyboard to turn on emoticon keyboard. In order to do this, the left numerical key has been made smaller and the asinine emoticon key placed in between the numerical key and the space bar.

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to remove it, not even in the General page.

Stupid.
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Settings-General-Keyboard-Keyboards
Remove the keyboard called Emoji
Done
 
ettsn said:
Settings-General-Keyboard-Keyboards
Remove the keyboard called Emoji
Done
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Hallelujah!!!!

Thank you, I too hated the existence of that button as I was frequently hitting it instead of the ".?123" button.
 
BigBadLou said:
Word of advice: if you are not forced (by a higher power) to use iOS, please stay away from cr-Apple devices if you can, for leisure or whatever. Android is the way to go.
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Cyanogenmod is even better... :stirpot:
 
Stewartb said:
I don't get it. I've done every iOS update as they've been released and I can't figure out what guys are complaining about. My current model iPads and iPhone 6+ run circles around my older iPads and iPhones. No hiccups at all. I must be lucky? Naw, my wife, kid, son-in-law, friends, employees, etc all agree. :)
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:lol:

The reason your 6 is soo much faster is because you install all the apple updates/bloat ware requiring a faster and faster processor, more and more ram.

When I ran my 4s with iOS 6.something against my girls 6+ they opened safari, browsed the web, at the same speed. Both had the exact same functions I care about, and frankly like the others said I could do without emojis. Also how safari displays the tabs now, it isn't as clear as the old way IMO.

After the accidental upgrade to 8.X now my 4S appears "old" and needs to be "upgraded" :mad2:
 
And here I sit happy as I can be and you sit and complain. It seems I might be onto something. :rolleyes:
 
I look at the purchase price of hardware as three year rentals. If I get more than three years, great, but to me, the improvements make it worth it.

I remember FF version 3.0. It was great at the time, but I'd be pretty disappointed running it now.
 
murphey said:
I hate emoticons. Apple had decreed that everyone should use emoticons, hence the key on the keyboard to turn on emoticon keyboard. In order to do this, the left numerical key has been made smaller and the asinine emoticon key placed in between the numerical key and the space bar.

As far as I can tell, it's not possible to remove it, not even in the General page.

Stupid.
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Yes it's possible to remove it. You can download third-party keyboards that do whatever you like.
 
It'll be good to get rid of the dead weight code holding FF back from supporting more useful functionality for the larger phones, especially the 6+.

You guys have fun with your 4's playing Angry Birds - oh wait that requires iOS8 too. lol

#whatevs
 
timwinters said:
Hallelujah!!!!

Thank you, I too hated the existence of that button as I was frequently hitting it instead of the ".?123" button.
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Perhaps this is Apple's way of telling us we're too old to use the iPad? That we don't communicate entirely by silly pictures? What's next? Prehistoric cave drawings?
 
murphey said:
Perhaps this is Apple's way of telling us we're too old to use the iPad? That we don't communicate entirely by silly pictures? What's next? Prehistoric cave drawings?
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I have a middle school daughter :hairraise:, who loves to converse using emoticons. :yes: We often try to come up with ones :idea: to make each other laugh. It's all in good fun! :lol:
 
Bill, google "Texts from a dog" and show her some of those.
 
Brad Z said:
I look at the purchase price of hardware as three year rentals. If I get more than three years, great, but to me, the improvements make it worth it.



I remember FF version 3.0. It was great at the time, but I'd be pretty disappointed running it now.
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I think it's closer to 2 years...
 
Clark1961 said:
that's okay, iOS 8.3 released today so maybe apple finally fixed things...then again, maybe they didn't...
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Actually, there's a thread over on Red talking about how they broke things. Apparently external gps units, like bad elf, don't work on 8.3.

I wouldn't update yet...
 
timwinters said:
Actually, there's a thread over on Red talking about how they broke things. Apparently external gps units, like bad elf, don't work on 8.3.
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That doesn't sound very good. Did 8.0 break it, or was it not until 8.3? Fortunately my iPad2 has an internal GPS or I'd probably be hopping mad, since I bit the bullet on ForeFlight's advice and moved to 8.1 a while ago.

(Come to think of it there WAS some kind of glitch with that upgrade, that involved the iPad not recognizing its AT&T SIM card. A hard reset and reboot fixed it, but it was definitely an annoyance.)
 
Looks like FF is coming to Apple Watch!

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ettsn said:
Looks like FF is coming to Apple Watch!
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Yeah, I read that yesterday. That's just what every pilot wants: To shoot an approach to minimums while viewing the plate on a 1" x 1" screen. :rolleyes:

azure said:
That doesn't sound very good. Did 8.0 break it, or was it not until 8.3?
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8.3. I got an email from foreflight about it today too.
 
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timwinters said:
Yeah, I read that yesterday. That's just what every pilot wants: To shoot an approach to minimums while viewing the plate on a 1" x 1" screen. :rolleyes:
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There are things that could be useful, like tactile notifications for waypoints, traffic, SUAs, etc. Don't think I'd buy the watch just for that but if you had one anyway you might as well get extra use out of it.
 
azure said:
That doesn't sound very good. Did 8.0 break it, or was it not until 8.3? Fortunately my iPad2 has an internal GPS or I'd probably be hopping mad, since I bit the bullet on ForeFlight's advice and moved to 8.1 a while ago.

(Come to think of it there WAS some kind of glitch with that upgrade, that involved the iPad not recognizing its AT&T SIM card. A hard reset and reboot fixed it, but it was definitely an annoyance.)
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I got the email today from FF about the external GPS problem. Less than 12 hours after I drank the kool-aide and upgraded to 8.3. That is KRAP!

And I'm flying next week. I just upgraded to Air2 and BadElfPro over the winter because my iPad Gen 1 could not take any more upgrades.

Hopefully it is fixed before I fly.

Edit: I just checked, I have the Bad Elf Pro+. ForeFlight blog does say that the Pro+ will still work. I just checked and it does.

Also FF responded to my email. He said it's been reported there is a way to revert to iOS8.2.
 
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