Failed Medical - Options Advice?

[Headspace]

I find it funny that everybody wants less restrictive 3rd class medicals, or to due away with them altogether yet don't like the inevitable result.

It's less of a like/dislike thing on my end and more like an "I'm surprised that's allowed" sort of thing. With there being so few of them and everything.

It's doubtful that the average member of the general public associates LSA with "medical problems." They probably don't differentiate the ratings or know what they are.

 

[azure]

I find it funny that everybody wants less restrictive 3rd class medicals, or to due away with them altogether yet don't like the inevitable result.

If the inevitable result was to appreciably increase the accident rate then I would have a problem with it. I think we're a long way from a safety record where medical incapacitation is a significant contributor, or would be even with a DL medical applied to all operations that require a 3rd class today.

I think the CDL medical is probably the best compromise, base medical certification on current health rather than a remote history of something.

 

[bbchien]

I'd be very interested to see the percentage of folks, who were initially diagnosed ADD/ADHD via pencil-whip method, that pass the formal testing years later (without drugs, of course).

IME, and I have lots of experience here....65%, and that is with GOOD information....my denominator is about 15.

 

[Jeff Oslick]

IME, and I have lots of experience here....65%, and that is with GOOD information....my denominator is about 15.

Interesting. Now, I'd be curious to see a blind study to see what percentage of the current (Class 3 medical) pilot population with no ADD/ADHD history would pass the test.

 

[joycem137]

I just got my medical done and (foolishly?) was also super honest with the forms and wrote all about every little detail of every medical problem I might have a touch of. The doc signed off on the medical cert, but told me to expect the FAA to bounce it back and ask me for a ton of medical documentation to prove that my tiny bit exercised induced asthma isn't really any problem, and that one time I passed out while breaking my leg was an isolated incident., etc.

I hope you get through this without too much hassle!

(Yay! First post on this site!)

 

[Dr. O]

All drugs have side effects - getting your medical denied is one of them.

And for the super conscientious, blind obedience has side effects.

Being PIC requires judgement - which needs to start before the first application (unfortunately).

 

[X3 Skier]

Interesting. Now, I'd be curious to see a blind study to see what percentage of the current (Class 3 medical) pilot population with no ADD/ADHD history would pass the test.

I tool one of the online ADHD tests that is supposeded to be one of the "pencil whipped" ones. Said I had Moderate ADHD.

Wonder how I ever managed Graduating Engineering and earn two Masters (Engineering and Business) and a 40 year career as an engineer and consultant.

Not to mention returning to flying after a 40 year layoff. Passed my Biennial after ~6 hours of dual instruction.

Cheers

 

[AggieMike88]

I just got my medical done and (foolishly?) was also super honest with the forms and wrote all about every little detail of every medical problem I might have a touch of. The doc signed off on the medical cert, but told me to expect the FAA to bounce it back and ask me for a ton of medical documentation to prove that my tiny bit exercised induced asthma isn't really any problem, and that one time I passed out while breaking my leg was an isolated incident., etc.

[bruce] --sigh-- [/bruce]

Boy do I wish part of a CFI's education, responsibilities, and QA review would be to find out more about the question 18 medical conditions from their students and prevent them from bombing into the AME's office only to wind up in the deferral and denial penalty box.

We've discussed frequently how overloaded Aeromedical's processing queue is. Some of that could possibly be reduced if the CFI's working with first time students would help prep the student for the AME exam.

Joyce; While you did right by being thorough and honest, you were done a disservice by bombing into the AME not quite prepared and getting routed into deferrell hell. Hopefully the delay won't be too long, but be prepared for a 90-120s before it's all settled out.

[bruce] --sigh-- [/bruce]

 

[Beech33W]

I can personally vouch for B Chein and his expert advice. I recommend you follow his instructions to the letter. I had spent 3k on my wife's medical after I took her for her 3rd class medical without researching it beforehand. She was denied and FAA told us we needed additional documentation. The documentation we provided was not from a 'board certified' doctor so it was not acceptable. As soon as we reached out here, Dr. Chein told us what to do and we were quickly back in the left seat.

I would guess that if / when you choose to pursue this, you will either get the proper documentation and continue on your way doing what you want, or you will find out more about your diagnosis than you knew and find out why you will not be passed. Probably you will be passed but one way or another you will know and I wish you the best.

Dr. Chein, thank you for all the support you have given many of us on this board. Your willingness to help and to educate those of us that are not being properly educated by our local mentors is making for a better class of future mentors and helping many acheive their dreams.

 

[John1]

Nope. You can't fly LSAs either, now. You Can do" under 256 pound" part 105 ultralights, that's about it.

The two neuropsychs in Chicago are $1,500 for this.

Do you have a name and/or address for those guys? Thank you.