EnviroWackos Attack Harrison Ford, $100 Hamburger

Some great comments on that article:

"Hell Tiger polluted the atmosphere a 100 times more while hooking up with all those women."

"Perhaps Dr. Wendy should discuss this with Nancy Pelosi while she flies coast to coast on her big private jet a couple of times a week (on our dime)."

It also failed to mention HF personally flew his Caravan on relief flights to Haiti. But, that doesn't further the cause of carbofootinmouth.com....
 
Apparently going for the $100 hamburger has too big a carbon footprint.

STORY.

Now, if it was pancakes instead.......

Best response:
I'll stop flying my airplane for cheeseburgers when rednecks stop racing cars in a circle for 500 miles with no emissions controls.
 
Not a lot of support in the comments. Of course, this whole thing is only important if you believe in the myth of man-made global warming in the first place. I don't happen to fall in that Chicken-Little camp.
 
Not a lot of support in the comments.
So maybe Harrison Ford is really a good spokesperson for GA and there is not as much hostility out there as people feared...
 
I hope this is not a SZ level comment.

A carbon tax must seem like the Holy Grail to some. Finally a justification for a tax on breathing, well at least on exhaling not to mention flatulence.

Joe
 
Best response:
I'll stop flying my airplane for cheeseburgers when rednecks stop racing cars in a circle for 500 miles with no emissions controls.

THIS.

Sorry for the obnoxious message, but this is pretty much how I feel...I remember reading somewhere that AOPA did a report on GA emissions, and it was something like 3%, with piston aircraft making up .13% or something insignificant like that...
 
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I still can't fathom the carbon footprint of the useless Copenhagen Warming conferees......
 
Let's not forget that in the seventies there was a wide "consensus" of "scientists" that the climate is cooling..... I'll leave it at that.
 
I hope this is not a SZ level comment.
Let's see, "EnviroWacko", Pelosi, "myth of man-made global warming", "Chicken-LIttle", carbon tax, Copenhagen, the obligatory exaggerated reference to a Newsweek article from the 70s ... yeah, I guess there might be a little bit of politicizing going on here.

I'd be happy to intersperse some informed rationality into this conversation, but our hosts have some rules about who says what where.
-harry
 
Does this page look green? Nope. Because it isn't the spin zone. How about we keep that in mind?
 
I like the comments of people pointing out the power station to run the servers that host their site put out more emissions than the plane. Yet they keep it up.
 
Best response:
I'll stop flying my airplane for cheeseburgers when rednecks stop racing cars in a circle for 500 miles with no emissions controls.

I do like that quote, but

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it was my understanding that those cars are so well tuned and operating at peak hp that emission controls would not be required. Now, that is not to say it is not spewing CO or CO2, just that those cars are making good use of the fuel.

I think I was told that when I suggested NASCAR implement emissions standards. The idea that NASCAR crew-cheifs and mechanics would solve the problem creatively and we'd all benefit.

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I do like that quote, but

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it was my understanding that those cars are so well tuned and operating at peak hp that emission controls would not be required.

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Thems cars run good old carburetors, jes like God intended.

Probably a bit rich (for power) and sure as heck at high loads. Lots of NOx, Lots of unburned HC and CO. Were I to guess (based on my 30+ years experience with this sort of thing) I would say more than 1000 times as much smog producing stuff as a modern production automobile that was certified against the lowest California emission standards.

Emission controls are not required for NASCAR because the emissions for race cars are not regulated.
 
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Thems cars run good old carburetors, jes like God intended.

Probably a bit rich (for power) and sure as heck at high loads. Lots of NOx, Lots of unburned HC and CO. Were I to guess (based on my 30+ years experience with this sort of thing) I would say more than 1000 times as much smog producing stuff as a modern production automobile that was certified against the lowest California emission standards.

Emission controls are not required for NASCAR because the emissions for race cars are not regulated.


I've attended exactly one NASCAR Race (Dover last fall).

There are plenty of unburned everythings....
 
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