Dang, the Red Bull Air Race rookies need training...

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Wow - I bet he was pouring the coals to the fire for that recovery.
 
No big deal - just a little water skiing.
 
Snaggletooth said:
One of the Red Bull Air Race rookies Crashed a few months back, Now Mat Hall, a Noob to the Red Bull Air Race, a Fighter Pilot almost crashed when he dipped BOTH Wing Tips, his Main Wheels, and his Tail Wheel in the Water at Windsor during Qualifying.

I'm starting to think these guys need more training!

http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Sa...rom-an-impact-021242857532108?p=1238611393596
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I don't think Hall ought to be considered a "Noob":

"Hall has two podiums in his career, including a second place finish in his home race in Perth, Australia in April. He joined the race in 2009 and became the most successful rookie in race"

It appears that in order to be competitive one has to fly right on the edge some of the time and just like in auto racing it's virtually inevitable that the edge gets crossed now and then. IMO, it's amazing that there haven't been any fatalities so far. For comparison check the stats at the Reno Air Races.

 
gismo said:
It appears that in order to be competitive one has to fly right on the edge some of the time and just like in auto racing it's virtually inevitable that the edge gets crossed now and then. IMO, it's amazing that there haven't been any fatalities so far. For comparison check the stats at the Reno Air Races.
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Agree. They are some damn good pilots and they're riding one hell of a dangerous line. A fatality is inevitable but I'm sure the pilots are well aware of the risks.
 
That guy cut it as close as you can come and still be alive... These planes are not Formula I cars or Top Fuel Dragsters and they do not have the safety cages and energy absorbing structural features to help the driver/pilot survive a 180mph impact... I agree that fatalities will happen...

denny-o
 
Dr. O said:
That guy cut it as close as you can come and still be alive... These planes are not Formula I cars or Top Fuel Dragsters and they do not have the safety cages and energy absorbing structural features to help the driver/pilot survive a 180mph impact... I agree that fatalities will happen...
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The race cars weren't designed for the crashes during the infancy of their race history either. Then there's the whole physics thing that gets in the way of adding 500+ lbs of hardware to hopefully protect the pilot in a dynamic uncontrollable environment.
 
Dr. O said:
That guy cut it as close as you can come and still be alive... These planes are not Formula I cars or Top Fuel Dragsters and they do not have the safety cages and energy absorbing structural features to help the driver/pilot survive a 180mph impact... I agree that fatalities will happen...

denny-o
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I agree to that..

Races are held over the water. +

Water doesn't burn. +

Water will cushion an impact. +

Water will drown you. - :eek:
 
have you ever wiped out tubing or water skiing? water isnt that soft...although its softer than dirt i suppose
 
tonycondon said:
have you ever wiped out tubing or water skiing? water isnt that soft...although its softer than dirt i suppose
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Yup...

back in another life I used to race hydroplanes and more then once I hit the water at over 100 mph.

It is hard,,,, but, I will take that over pavement any day. :yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yikes:
 
tonycondon said:
have you ever wiped out tubing or water skiing? water isnt that soft...although its softer than dirt i suppose
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Yep...just ask the people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge/George Washington Bridge/Brooklyn Bridge.... sans bungee cord/parachute how much water cushioned their fall.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Yep...just ask the people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge/George Washington Bridge/Brooklyn Bridge.... sans bungee cord/parachute how much water cushioned their fall.
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Tubing,water skiing or crashing a hydro or a plane is a skipping event..

Jumping off a bridge is a square impact and is different.
But you knew that.:yesnod:
 
Raw spectator video of his entire routine, including the mishap:


I bet that got his heart racing a bit.
 
Did he lose his tailwheel when it contacted the water? Almost looks like he did, in that last video at 0:58.
 
It was a wheelpant that fell. He also bent an aileron and a bit of the wing.

--Carlos V.
 
TangoWhiskey said:
Did he lose his tailwheel when it contacted the water? Almost looks like he did, in that last video at 0:58.
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I thought it looked like a wheel too.
Unbeliever said:
It was a wheelpant that fell. He also bent an aileron and a bit of the wing.

--Carlos V.
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On the RB site they say:
What exactly was damaged on the plane?
The wheel spat, the aileron and we have to inspect the fuselage landing gear mount because it took quite an impact. And also part of the rear right wing has got a little bit of damage. We just want to make sure it’s just cosmetic and not structural.
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Well, that explaines why they removed gate 12 from the course for day 2.
 
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