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Greebo said:Yes that is good news. I regularly tivo -> dvd our favorite shows for our own use and this broadclast flag business was clearly stepping on our fair use rights as consumers.
It's "cajones".Dave Krall CFII said:....they should have the kahonnes to admit it...
This doesn't have one iota of impact on "stealing."Dave Krall CFII said:What's so hard to understand about copyright ?
When people choose to steal by way of copying material illegally (-and haven't we all ?) to any extent, they should have the kahonnes to admit it, and not be a whuss and use denial to rationalize that the approval of others that have done the same makes it not stealing.
Dave Krall CFII said:What's so hard to understand about copyright ?
When people choose to steal by way of copying material illegally (-and haven't we all ?) to any extent, they should have the kahonnes to admit it, and not be a whuss and use denial to rationalize that the approval of others that have done the same makes it not stealing.
Joe Williams said:Beg pardon, but the topic isn't stealing copyrighted material. It's about our government not prohibiting us from engaging in activities the courts have held legal. The courts have NOT legalized theft.
Dave Krall CFII said:"Under the FCC rule, programers could attach a code, or flag, to digital broadcasts that would, in most cases, bar consumers from sending unauthorized copies over the Web."
Sure seems to me it's about copyright infringement...
Joe Williams said:If that's what it did, that would be fine. But what the rule really does is keep us from making legal copies in our house. I've never used a pirated program, never sent a movie over the web, never downloaded music illegally, and feel no urge to give up my rights to fair use of materials I've paid for.
Joe Williams said:If that's what it did, that would be fine. But what the rule really does is keep us from making legal copies in our house. I've never used a pirated program, never sent a movie over the web, never downloaded music illegally, and feel no urge to give up my rights to fair use of materials I've paid for.
Dave Krall CFII said:I haven't read the contract for these materials you paid for but typically, unless written permission is given, they may not be legally copied in any way for any reason without that written permission.
In other words typically, one pays for ones viewing, not to copy.
Joe Williams said:The courts disagree with you. We do have the right to make copies for our own use.
Joe Williams said:The courts disagree with you. We do have the right to make copies for our own use.
Supreme Court in Universal v. Reimerdes said:Preliminarily, we note that the Supreme Court has never held that fair use is constitutionally required, although some isolated statements in its opinions might arguably be enlisted for such a requirement
Joe Williams said:The courts disagree with you. We do have the right to make copies for our own use.
wsuffa said:Is that right embodied in law or is it judicial activism that granted the right?
Dave Krall CFII said:"Under the FCC rule, programers could attach a code, or flag, to digital broadcasts that would, in most cases, bar consumers from sending unauthorized copies over the Web."
Sure seems to me it's about copyright infringement...
Joe Williams said:I buy a movie, it's my property. I can do with what I wish. The courts did not engage in judicial activism in this case, they properly protected the rights of individual property owners.