Cost of a private pilot certificate now??

But of course, we try to exceed the minimums
and you prove my point. you are costing students money and increasing the failure/dropout rate because you think you need to go above and beyond. The ACS doesn't have minimums, it has STANDARDS that must be met.

CFI are like the idiot AnP's who thinks they have the power to ground aircraft because they think something is unairworthy. Both are 100% wrong.
 
These training costs make the package deal of training AND buying a plane, then selling it (even at a loss), possibly a reasonable spreadsheet outcome.
Did exactly that. Bought plane for 33k. Will be selling it for 55-60k shorly. 50 an hour for instructor and roughly 50 an hour in fuel. Did have a 5k annual and it did need some radio work and adsb. At worst I'll break even.
 
and you prove my point. you are costing students money and increasing the failure/dropout rate because you think you need to go above and beyond. The ACS doesn't have minimums, it has STANDARDS that must be met.

CFI are like the idiot AnP's who thinks they have the power to ground aircraft because they think something is unairworthy. Both are 100% wrong.
Id be willing to bet most drop outs are well before getting anywhere close to minimums. And largely due to the student not being willing/able to fly frequently enough.

I would much prefer going beyond the minimum of 10 night landings. It's the difference between legal and proficient. Are you going to be tested on a night landing come checkride? Nope. But if you slam all 10 with an instructor, I wouldn't want to be signed off because I met the 61.109 minimum.
 
I really wish I had written down what I paid for rentals, instructors, and fuel over the 30+ years I have been flying. I THINK I paid $38-$45 an hour for a busted up 150/152 back in 1990, but I don't know. I think I have receipts from 1999 in a PA28-180 I rented to do my commercial check ride somewhere. I think it was around $70/hour.
1980=$22 an hour for brand new 172s and $18 for new 152s.
 
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