Cockpit view of Space Shuttle landing

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Starting at 83,000 feet and 260 knots IAS (over Mach 2 up there)... Turns final at 34,000 feet, Rolls out on final at 9,000 and 300 KIAS, aiming at a point WELL short of the runway due to the insane descent angle. Looked like they have some sort of VASI-ish thing way out there. Then, the flare starts at 2,000 and the gear starts down at 200, touchdown at 210 KIAS! Way cool! :yes:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3eva3_space-shuttle-sts98-landing-from-co_tech
 
Don't ya just like that the thing that seems to get them excited and giddy is getting to log actual instrument time??!!!

How about that approach speed?
 
What's their go around checklist like? ;)

Challenge....................Response
Parachute...................ON
Resume.......................UPDATED
Door...........................OPEN
Jump...........................
 
Seems like they have an awful lot of faith in the gear extension system(s). Must be pretty reliable.
 
Seems like they have an awful lot of faith in the gear extension system(s). Must be pretty reliable.

im pretty sure that they probably wait until the last second for several reason. one major one is probably speed. they are going pretty darn fast even on short final, let alone earlier in the approach. and there is the drag penalty of having them dangling. true, the shuttle is not exactly a low drag object but every little bit helps (or hurts). Plus, if the gear doesnt properly come down, what can they do about it? my guess is nothing. so i it isnt coming down, it doesnt matter if you find out early on or later in the approach.
 
What's their go around checklist like? ;)

From http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/history/story/ch12.html

An extremely sophisticated and accurate system is necessary because the orbiter makes a "dead-stick" approach to the runway; that is, it has no flight power system on board for landing. It is, in effect, a glider at this point. In the unlikely event of a missed approach, it cannot circle the strip and try a second time.


I don't think there are any missed approach procedures. She's a glider on the way down!

Gave me goose bumps while watching. Very, very cool! :)
 
im pretty sure that they probably wait until the last second for several reason. one major one is probably speed. they are going pretty darn fast even on short final, let alone earlier in the approach. and there is the drag penalty of having them dangling. true, the shuttle is not exactly a low drag object but every little bit helps (or hurts). Plus, if the gear doesnt properly come down, what can they do about it? my guess is nothing. so i it isnt coming down, it doesnt matter if you find out early on or later in the approach.

If there was more time, a manually activated backup extension could be used but I suspect that the design was either made reliable enough (99.99999%?) or there are automatic backups that can extend the gear in time if the primary fails. I can't imagine that a 150 mph belly landing or worse yet a landing with one leg up and one down would be very pretty.
 
What's their go around checklist like? ;)

On orbit: Business as usual.
High altitude: Pick predesignated alternate. Land there.
During the terminal landing phase: Kachunk, grind, grind, scrape, grind, scrrraapppeeegrrrinnnddd, sound of bush branches snapping, griind, scrape, dirt and dust everywhere.

Seems like they have an awful lot of faith in the gear extension system(s). Must be pretty reliable.

Shortly after the Challenger oopsie, I ran across something about the emergency gear extension system or at least a prototype design from the early 70's. I'm not sure if it was actually in use or one of the things that was originally designed then cut down to something less weighty. IIRC, basically step one was the standard gear extension system. If that failed, the emergency hydraulic system designed to solve the problem 'right now' would drop the gear. If that didn't work, the backup emergency system did it's thing and made sure it was down. If that failed, they were out of time to be playing around being polite and a pyrotechnic emergency gear system fired, tore up whatever was necessary to get things moving and shoved the gear down into place by brute force. I have no clue if that is what is actually on the vehicles though.

Whatever they use, I'm certain that the Apollo era designers who were pretty serious about being creative and making things work right the first time were told something along the lines of "The wheels HAVE TO come down and they WILL be down when it lands and that's all there is to it. Understand? Good, get out your pencils and start designing."
 
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