Cheetah checkout ride

dbatjr

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Tom
Hi,

First post.

Been reading all the Grumman threads I can find.

I'm a low time pilot with about 150 hours, all in C172 flying in the Northeast area. Yesterday I had a checkout ride in a 1976 Cheetah and the following is more or less a list of my first impressions.

Checking the fuel was obviously much easier on the Cheetah but grabbing a step ladder isn't really much of a chore either.

Loved the sliding canopy, but the interior did look smaller than the Cessna, especially the back seat.

In the Cessna I get in and then move the seat forward even though I'm 6'3". In the Cheetah, I had to push the seat all the way back to keep the yoke from hitting my legs. Can't imagine anyone sitting behind me in the Cheetah.

Did I mention the sliding canopy? In the summer that must be nice to leave open during taxi. I don't see rain as an issue since I'm VFR and save my flying dollars for nice days.

The castoring nose wheel was not an issue at all. Very easy to adapt to it.

Although somewhat concerned about the switch from high wing, I thought the forward visibility in the Cheetah was actually better than the Cessna. The top of the Cheetah panel was much lower and gave me a panoramic view of the ground in level flight.

Even though I could not look straight down as in the Cessna, I didn't feel anything was missing from a sightseeing standpoint. I could almost look straight down in front of the leading edge and anyone small enough to sit in the back could look down just past the trailing edge.

We did some normal maneuvers and emergency procedures and I felt it was faster to react to the controls but not too much for me to handle.

The CFI was a bit hesitant doing touch and go's because the wind was 320@17 with gusts to 24 and we were using RWY 29. After a brief discussion we decided to give it a try and would simply go around if it was too much for me.

I did 3 landings, one of which was pretty good and one I floated a bit, but I think I did ok considering the cross wind. I never felt I got behind the airplane even though it was my first time landing a Cheetah in less than ideal conditions.

It was a lot of fun to fly overall and the biggest adjustment I feel that needs to be made coming from the 172 is getting used to the different sight cues for climb, level flight and descent.

Going back tomorrow to try out a Tiger.


Tom
 
First welcome to POA! Second glad you liked the Cheetah. The Grummans are fantastic planes! I'd have thought that if you check out in the Tiger you would be good for the Cheetah as well. I don't have Cheetah time but do have a good amount of Tiger Plane, its a hell of a lot of fun to fly. Enjoy!
 
Where are you renting from and what are the rates?
 
I flew a Tiger AA5B for many years; loved the plane. The Tiger/Cheetah will float so staying on the numbers is important for a good landing. The castering nose wheel is a blessing and a curse. It is great when you need a tight turn; however, if the shimmy damper gets out of whack the nose wheel will vibrate like crazy. Also, ALWAYS check your brakes prior to applying enough power to pull out for taxi. I had a brake failure on one side and spun in a complete circle with no way to stop the turn; felt totally helpless. Fortunately I didn't hit anything.
 
Welcome to the forum. I agree on the brakes with the caste ring nose wheel.if a brake locks up all you can do is shut down and get a tow.
 
Welcome to the forum. I agree on the brakes with the caste ring nose wheel.if a brake locks up all you can do is shut down and get a tow.
That's not much different than having a locked brake on a nose-wheel-steering plane. The situation where a steerable nosewheel becomes a big advantage is brake failure, not locking. In a Cirrus, Grumman, or Lancair/Columbia-type Cessna, all you can do after brake failure is kill the engine, steer with rudder as long as possible, and hope for the best after that.
 
Where are you renting from and what are the rates?


Blue Sky Flight at KBDR in Stratford, Connecticut.

Dry rental rates:

Cheetah $85
Tiger $90

After each rental flight you have the tanks filled and pay for the fuel separately.

It's over an hour drive for me but I was specifically looking for a Grumman Tiger or Cheetah to fly. Going back tomorrow for a flight in one of the Tigers.

Tom
 
I can relate! I trained in a 172, but bought a Tiger before I was done with my ticket. Briefly considered switching to the Tiger for my checkride, but realized that it would put me at a unnecessary disadvantage.

My impressions of switching to the Tiger--

MUCH lighter controls. Very small adjustments on all control surfaces are best.

Much faster on approach. It took me a while to learn how to slow the bird down for a decent landing... coming at 80k is just too much, but that's what it "wants" to do. The result is a long float or maybe dropping in... so watch for that.

The castoring nosewheel is a non-event, in my book. Turns on a dime when you need it (nice in a tight runup area) but a ***** to push back into a hangar. Again, very small adjustments to the towbar!

Canopy a mixed blessing... harder to enter and exit, but you can open it in taxi, etc, which I always do down here in Florida. However, getting out in the rain? You AND your panel will get wet.

Having said all that, I really like my Tiger. My student pilot husband has flown a flight school Cheetah about 30 hours, and then switched to the Tiger. He mostly noticed that lighter controls and the extra speed.

Enjoy your experimentation!

cheers,

Allison
 
Partial Cheetah owner here, I fly out of WST. I learned in a 172 and instantly fell in love with the Cheetah when going for a checkout ride. Have fun and enjoy!!
 
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