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dmccormack said:
Good grief, Jay.

I have 21 years of service to my credit, and will return to Ready Reserve status in October.

What have you done WRT Afghanistan?
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That's nice, but has nothing to do with what I just said.

Now, answer the question -- what do you believe WRT Afghanistan?
 
dmccormack said:
"Nice?"

How trivilizing. And condescending.

Let's put it this way -- I answered "the question" when I raised my right hand in 1980.
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If I'm reading Dan correctly, in regard to this post and the last paragraph regarding MacArthur in one somewhere above, he's saying that his personal opinions don't matter.
 
Obi Heed Kenobi said:
If I'm reading Dan correctly, in regard to this post and the last paragraph regarding MacArthur in one somewhere above, he's saying that his personal opinions don't matter.
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You read correctly, sir.

We live in an imperfect world, with very few clear cut "victories."

Wars begin with trumpets and end in a whimper.

The best we can hope for to to suppress evil wherever we can, but even those are temporary victories subject to erosion.

What do I want in Afghanistan? What I hope every American wants for everyone -- to live in peace, to worship freely, to be prosperous enough to never see your children die of disease or starvation, and to be powerful enough to resist evil when it appears.
 
dmccormack said:
"Nice?"

How trivilizing. And condescending.

Let's put it this way -- I answered "the question" when I raised my right hand in 1980.
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I'm not following you. Either you have a reading comprehension problem, or I'm not being clear.

Let's try this: I am very happy for your military service. It's a great thing to do. I have helped to steer my son into it. I'm not trying to impugn it or you in any way. I am simply trying to figure out specifically what you, as a military man, would recommend doing in Afghanistan. I've re-read the thread, and you have remained silent on the issue, which makes me wonder how we can agree -- or disagree -- with you.
 
Jay Honeck said:
I'm not following you. Either you have a reading comprehension problem, or I'm not being clear.

Let's try this: I am very happy for your military service. It's a great thing to do. I have helped to steer my son into it. I'm not trying to impugn it or you in any way. I am simply trying to figure out specifically what you, as a military man, would recommend doing in Afghanistan. I've re-read the thread, and you have remained silent on the issue, which makes me wonder how we can agree -- or disagree -- with you.
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Some 18th c. French treatises make me work hard. I've never mastered Russian or German, but I do quite well in English -- until the 15th c. -- then I need help.

Your snide aspersions, for example, are crystal clear.
 
dmccormack said:
Some 18th c. French treatises make me work hard. I've never mastered Russian or German, but I do quite well in English -- until the 15th c. -- then I need help.

Your snide aspersions, for example, are crystal clear.
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WTF are you talking about?

"I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer, Dan. You don't need to get nasty.
 
Jay Honeck said:
WTF are you talking about?

"I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer, Dan. You don't need to get nasty.
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I "have a reading comprehension problem" and my years of service are merely "nice."

I provided a summary of my views in Post #85,

You provided some MacArthur quote about total victory some way back and my response was, "How do we define 'total victory' in Afghanistan?"

But I'm being "nasty?"

Let me make it plain: I'm not a big fan of flag waving and chest thumping by those who have no skin in the game.

But that's just me.
 
dmccormack said:
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Wars begin with trumpets and end in a whimper.
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The bravado (read: utter stupidity) shown by everyone involved in the summer of 1914 might be the quintessential example of this. There are obviously all kinds of other examples, but this particular one is what your post made me think of.

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What do I want in Afghanistan? What I hope every American wants for everyone -- to live in peace, to worship freely, to be prosperous enough to never see your children die of disease or starvation, and to be powerful enough to resist evil when it appears.
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+1
 
I "have a reading comprehension problem" and my years of service are merely "nice."
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Yep.

I provided a summary of my views in Post #85,
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Here's what you said WRT to Afghanistan:

What do I want in Afghanistan? What I hope every American wants for everyone -- to live in peace, to worship freely, to be prosperous enough to never see your children die of disease or starvation, and to be powerful enough to resist evil when it appears.
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Those are nice platitudes, Dan, but I'm not willing to commit my son to battle with that sort of "strategy".

You provided some MacArthur quote about total victory some way back and my response was, "How do we define 'total victory' in Afghanistan?"
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My response was "It's not possible." I'm simply trying to determine if you agree or disagree.

But I'm being "nasty?"
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Quite. I was merely trying to figure out what you, as a military man, would do in Afghanistan if you were in command of our military. For reasons that I cannot discern, you don't want to answer that, and you seem to be itching for a fight over it.

Sorry, I've got better things to do.
 
ScottM said:
What struck me about what they were saying concerning MacArthur and the invasion in Japan was that it would appear his invasion a few later of the Korean Peninsula was partially a result of his feeling it might have been his destiny to lead such an amphibious assault. It started me wondering if the invasion of Inchon might not have been necessary.
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The invasion of Inchon was a stroke of military genius that saved South Korea from complete collapse. One only has to look at a strategic map of the situation to see that.
 
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