TangoWhiskey
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Are Blue Ray DVD players backwards compatible? i.e., will they play my current collection of DVDs?
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I think I found the answer, but would like confirmation from someone who has a BlueRay player: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_backwards_compatible
bjohnson
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All Sony Bluray players will play your current DVD collection. They will not play HD-DVD discs.
I'd stay away from Blu-Ray until the movie companies come to their senses and stop charging $30 a movie.
The future is not going to be DVD or CD of any kind. It's gonna be downloaded content on a central media hub.
The future is not going to be DVD or CD of any kind. It's gonna be downloaded content on a central media hub.
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What's so special about Blue Ray, anyway? Can't you program a HD movie on a standard double length DVD?
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It doesn't quite work like that. The codec and the players aren't built for it.
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My DVD player broke so I went for the Blu-Ray. They are expensive, though, so I'm still buying the older style right now.
Not until companies like Comcast and other ISPs start relaxing on bandwidth restrictions.
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While that is true the bigger reason you will not see HD and Blue Ray in the same box is that they were competing standards. Neither group of supporter tried nor desired cross licensing of the other's technology. They wanted to whoop the competitor technology. That finally happened with Blue-Ray winning the format wars.
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LG has a player that will play both Blu-ray and HD-DVD disc.
By the way its Blu-ray NOT Blue Ray
Not until sheeple also stop giving business to Comcast. Take the hint: Comcast doesn't want the aggravation that all those pesky customers bring.
I can live without #1) Sony, #2) Comcast, and #3) the movie industry that insists my purchase has to self destruct 24 hours after I start watching so I have to buy again and again.
Bet me.
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That came out after Toshiba conceded the market. My statement still holds true. The Toshiba camp and the Sony camp were locked into a death struggle for the industry standard.
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That isn't what he was talking about. Kenny was asking if you could just encode a high def movie on a regular DVD by using two dvds or having it double sided.
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I vote BetaMax ...
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I have no idea what you mean. The movie is either encoded for regular DVD, Blu-Ray, or HD. The dual or multi-mode players are the ones that are able to see and decode the different formats on the disc.
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That is good as it would appear that this time 'beta-max' won the technology war.
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Exactly. You can't do it. as I said above. Kenny was just asking if it were possible to encode a movie with high def quality on a regular DVD disk by using multiple disks. I was saying that was not possible as the players and codecs aren't designed for it.
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Selectavision....
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I can live without #1) Sony, #2) Comcast, and #3) the movie industry that insists my purchase has to self destruct 24 hours after I start watching so I have to buy again and again.
LOL...Mike, I can live without all of it. I sold my TV and watch the occasional DVD hooked up to my HD computer monitor. No TIVO, no American Idol, no "reality show", no network news telling me what I should vote, none of that crap.
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Geesh does that take me back!
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Welcome back, BA.
I was thinking there's no reason you coudn't fit a movie at 1080i or 1080p on a standard 7GB DVD, just not in movie length.
Then I realized that Jesse is right in that a consumer DVD player (as opposed to a computer, where it's trivial) would have to know how to decode the 1080 resolution, however it was encoded.
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There's also the bandwidth issue... you have to be able to pull the audio and video data off the disc fast enough. Blu-Ray, at 1x speeds, can do 36 Mbit/s; at 6x speeds (available today), it can 216 Mbit/s. The standard is written to support up to a theoretical 12x (432 Mbit/s, 54 MB/s) data rate.
Compare that to standard DVD... 1x = 10.55 Mbit/s, 6x = 63.3Mbit/s.
Not only only do Blu-Ray discs store about 6 times more data, they can suck that data off the disk at better than tree times the data rate.
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Besides the data capacity is much greater than 2x original DVD. (25GB/layer vs 8.5GB/layer).
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Be careful, Brian. Not all Blu-ray are made the same. The first gen are missing several key features that many people will want in an upgraded player. Good internal hard drive and network connectivity being two that come to mind right away. Honestly, from everything that I've read, the best choice if really want blu-ray is a Playstation 3. Then you also get the console for not much more money.
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This isn't first-gen. And I'm not sitting on my butt playing video games anymore than I'm going to let the media wizards control me with Survivor and American Idol. I'll be in the shop if you need me, making sawdust.
My DVD player needs to do one thing: play DVDs in whatever format I bought it for. I don't need network connectivity or internal storage.
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Simply put Blu-Ray wins regardless of specs. The same way VHS won, with "mature" flicks.
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/13/155907.php
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/13/155907.php
That post was when Sony was banning "mature content." When the pundits reminded them what cost them BetaMax, they backed off so fast .....
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To some extent, "mature content" has silently given rise to many things. It's hard to prove, but one could argue this for the 'net, cable, pic phones, and more.That post was when Sony was banning "mature content." When the pundits reminded them what cost them BetaMax, they backed off so fast .....
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Actually to a fairly large extent, but it's a dirty little secret we don't talk about!
That post was when Sony was banning "mature content." When the pundits reminded them what cost them BetaMax, they backed off so fast .....
Yeah, but it's a whole different age, who gets their porn on video (or Super 8
) anymore? 90%+ now is downloaded.
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But, excluding how many of have our computers hooked up to their TV? Sure downloaded porn is good (I'd assume), but don't you think ppl want to see it on their 1080p 60" HDTV with Dolby 5.1 surround sound? This is why porn will be a part of the winning format. Ease of use and privacy (i.e. paper trail from cards and no worries about viruses).Yeah, but it's a whole different age, who gets their porn on video (or Super 8
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Not out in the open but I can assure you the discussion has been had behind many a closed door and with potential customers and includes market studies withj the interest groups and users.Actually to a fairly large extent, but it's a dirty little secret we don't talk about!
ME! That would be me. I'm telling you the hot setup is and will be media stored on central storage to be enjoyed whenever, wherever in the home. I tried it with my HD TiVo and then decided with no source and with TiVo getting into bed with the movie companies, they didn't bring enough to the party. I will only keep the TiVo if I'm forced to TiVo/Comcast/CableCARD as my last, least objectionable resort, which might happen.
Short of the PC, you can use a TV appliance like Apple TV, and many others. HP has one. Those big guys are also in bed with the movie companies so your "rented" content gets deleted in 24 hours after you first view it, which I will not abide.
*cough* I don't where else you can get 1080p into the house short of Blu-Ray and even the more compressed stuff looks pretty good. The audio is 7.1 Dolby, sir.
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But this leaves the problem of portability. For instance, if you taped a normal TV show your friend wants to borrow you can hand simply hand it to them. With the central storage you'd have to locate it and possibly convert it a compatible format before burning it to a disc. As we know, video re-compression can take some time to complete.
*cough* I don't where else you can get 1080p into the house short of Blu-Ray and even the more compressed stuff looks pretty good. The audio is 7.1 Dolby, sir.
Why don't you go up to 10.2 or one day really go all UHDTV (7680 x 4320) & 22.2 surround sound?
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Oh, I hadn't even heard of this. Man, that's cool. 24 speakers in three layers?! WOW.