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I have my basicmed this Friday. Will post pirep after. Apart from the FAA form, do i need to carry anything else? Already sent the AOPA documentation to the doc few weeks back and he said he would be open to sign.

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WannFly said:
I have my basicmed this Friday. Will post pirep after. Apart from the FAA form, do i need to carry anything else? Already sent the AOPA documentation to the doc few weeks back and he said he would be open to sign.

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You do not need to carry the form or the course certificate when you fly. Just keep them in a safe place. You do need to carry a valid driver's license.
 
MassPilot said:
You do not need to carry the form or the course certificate when you fly. Just keep them in a safe place. You do need to carry a valid driver's license.
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I mean for the basicmed exam itself...
 
You're supposed to furnish the doctor doing the exam with your completed BasicMed form and a copy of the doctor's checklist to fill out. (Of course, if the doctor is an AME, he/she probably already has copies. ;))

Other than that, I don't think there is anything you need to bring.
 
azure said:
You're supposed to furnish the doctor doing the exam with your completed BasicMed form and a copy of the doctor's checklist to fill out. (Of course, if the doctor is an AME, he/she probably already has copies. ;))

Other than that, I don't think there is anything you need to bring.
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The checklist is part of the form.
 
azure said:
Kind of. They are separate pages from the same form, true. But I only printed out what I needed, since I was going to an AME.
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The doctor is suppose to read through the section you filled out before doing the exam. The first item on the physician instructions is:
1. Review all sections of the checklist, particularly SECTION 2 completed by the airman.
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MassPilot said:
The doctor is suppose to read through the section you filled out before doing the exam. The first item on the physician instructions is:
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Not sure what your point is. You do need to bring your filled out part, I believe I said that originally. (Not as clearly as you, though, since I forgot that the form is called an 8700-2.)
 
azure said:
Not sure what your point is. You do need to bring your filled out part, I believe I said that originally. (Not as clearly as you, though, since I forgot that the form is called an 8700-2.)
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You made it sound like you only brought part of the form. My point is you need to bring the entire form, not just part of it. Section 1 is "Instructions to the Individual and State-Licensed Physician". Section 2 is what you filled out and the physician is specifically instructed to review it. Section 3 is "Instructions for State-Licensed Physician" as well as the checklist. I don't see how you can leave one single page behind.
 
The form is not to be split up. Print the whole thing off and take it with you. Be sure to fill out section 2 completely.
 
@WannFly the only other thing you should consider is that if you have any medical conditions treated by a specialist that may raise concerns, you may want to bring a note from the specialist. I have an eye condition that I had to disclose on the form, and I brought a note from my ophthalmologist stating that the condition is stable and doesn't effect my corrected vision. I think that made my doctor more comfortable signing the form.
 
Brad Z said:
The form is not to be split up. Print the whole thing off and take it with you....
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That's the conclusion I came to when I saw this on the first page of the checklist [emphasis added]:

"The individual must complete SECTION 2 of this checklist and provide the checklist in its entirety (including the completed SECTION 2) to the state-licensed physician performing the medical examination."​
 
MassPilot said:
You made it sound like you only brought part of the form. My point is you need to bring the entire form, not just part of it. Section 1 is "Instructions to the Individual and State-Licensed Physician". Section 2 is what you filled out and the physician is specifically instructed to review it. Section 3 is "Instructions for State-Licensed Physician" as well as the checklist. I don't see how you can leave one single page behind.
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Okay, my bad then. Yes the instructions say to bring the whole thing. I brought only my part because the AME had his own copies. But I guess you are expected to follow the letter of the instructions, even when there is no logical reason for it.

I had to print out only what I (thought I) needed since I was using the printer at work, as mine is broken.

Sigh.
 
MassPilot said:
@WannFly the only other thing you should consider is that if you have any medical conditions treated by a specialist that may raise concerns, you may want to bring a note from the specialist. I have an eye condition that I had to disclose on the form, and I brought a note from my ophthalmologist stating that the condition is stable and doesn't effect my corrected vision. I think that made my doctor more comfortable signing the form.
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i do have a SI and the doc is aware of it. both the specialist and the primary is from the same provider and all my notes are in the system. i did not however get the sign off like i did when i visited my AME last yr
 
on a diff note, how does after 40 basicmed work? i understand there is some requirement of checkup every 2 yrs on 3rd class? if you are after 40? i am long ways from 40 (like whole five-and-half-month-away)... just curious
 
WannFly said:
on a diff note, how does after 40 basicmed work? i understand there is some requirement of checkup every 2 yrs on 3rd class? if you are after 40? i am long ways from 40 (like whole five-and-half-month-away)... just curious
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It doesn't make a difference for BasicMed. A 3rd class medical is good for 5 years if you are under 40 at the AME exam and 2 years if you are 40 or older at the exam. The BasicMed exam is good for 4 years and the online course is good for 2 years regardless of age.
 
WannFly said:
on a diff note, how does after 40 basicmed work? i understand there is some requirement of checkup every 2 yrs on 3rd class? if you are after 40? i am long ways from 40 (like whole five-and-half-month-away)... just curious
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Absolutely no difference between under 40 and over 40 for BasicMed. The physical exam is required every 4 years regardless of age; the online course is every 2 years.
 
azure said:
Okay, my bad then. Yes the instructions say to bring the whole thing. I brought only my part because the AME had his own copies. But I guess you are expected to follow the letter of the instructions, even when there is no logical reason for it.

I had to print out only what I (thought I) needed since I was using the printer at work, as mine is broken.

Sigh.
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I hope and believe that it's not something that the FAA would consider pursuing, since there was no intent to deceive.
 
Signed off. It was exactly like the 3rd class I did last yr. Good for next 4

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Thanks for the post.

How is the faa made aware of if you have your medical done?
 
5QK said:
Thanks for the post.

How is the faa made aware of if you have your medical done?
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It appears that the information gets sent to the FAA when you take the online medical education course. From the BasicMed FAQ:

Q31:
The medical course required that I enter my personal information and the name and
license number of the physician who conducted my individual medical examination. Why is the
FAA collecting this information?
A:
The BasicMed legislation (FESSA) requires the FAA to collect that information.
The pilot’s personal information will be used to conduct the NDR check. The FAA will
store the information it is required by FESSA to collect in the airman’s record.
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https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/basic_med/media/basicmed_faq.pdf
 
5QK said:
Thanks for the post.

How is the faa made aware of if you have your medical done?
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once you take the OAPA course, there is form you fill up that has a place to fill up when the medical was done, who did it and his contact info. you also consent to NDR. I did that on Sunday, FAA airmen registry is not updated yet with the basicmed date, guessing it takes some time
 
WannFly said:
once you take the OAPA course, there is form you fill up that has a place to fill up when the medical was done, who did it and his contact info. you also consent to NDR. I did that on Sunday, FAA airmen registry is not updated yet with the basicmed date, guessing it takes some time
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Do you, or anyone, know if PA''s can give the Med portion?
 
WannFly said:
They can't. Have to be state licensed. So MD or DO. Or AME

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PA's and NP's ARE state licensed... just not physicians.

Its more reasonable to state that the regulations specify that a state licensed PHYSICIAN perform and sign off on the exam.
 
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Doggtyred said:
PA's and NP's ARE state licensed... just not physicians.

Its more reasonable to state that the regulations specify that a state licensed PHYSICIAN perform and sign off on the exam.
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Thanks for the reply.

You guys are awesome.
 
got an email from FAA Safety Team


The accredited activity ALC-1234 has been VALIDATED by XXX YYYY (xxx.x.yyyy@faa.gov) on 06/26/2017*. Thank you for participating in the WINGS, Pilot Proficiency Program or the AMT Awards Program.

Requesting User: XXXXXXXX YYYYY (xyz@email.com)
Accredited Activity Number: ALC-1234
Accredited Activity Name: Medical Self Assessment: A Pilot's Guide To Flying Healthy
Accredited Activity Completion Date: 06/25/2017

and airmen database now shows my BasicMed date. that was fast!!
 
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