BasicMed CMEC Date and FAA

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Is it a requirement that the FAA has the date of your last CMEC?

Background: My Course dates and CMEC dates have never matched as I took the course once BasicMed was rolled out but didn't have the CMEC until several months later. At the time I had a Second Class SI so it didn't really matter. Fast forward 7 years and from the FAA's perspective here are my dates:

BasicMed Course Date: 3/8/2023 - Expires 3/31/2025
BasicMed CMEC Date: 10/5/2020 - Expires 10/5/2024

I was unable to get my next annual physical scheduled with my PCP close to 10/5/2024, so he completed a new CMEC last year with a 10/17/2023 date - which would be valid until 10/17/2028 (or 10/31/2028 if the FAA fixes the CMEC duration). I don't see any way to get the updated CMEC date to the FAA without taking the course again. But is it really necessary? I have all the required and valid documentation of my CMEC and Course completion. I don't see any requirement that the FAA needs the dates, so am I good waiting until 3/2025 to take the course, at which time the FAA will receive an update? Has anyone had any experience with this scenario/question?
 
idahoflier said:
Is it a requirement that the FAA has the date of your last CMEC?

Background: My Course dates and CMEC dates have never matched as I took the course once BasicMed was rolled out but didn't have the CMEC until several months later. At the time I had a Second Class SI so it didn't really matter. Fast forward 7 years and from the FAA's perspective here are my dates:

BasicMed Course Date: 3/8/2023 - Expires 3/31/2025
BasicMed CMEC Date: 10/5/2020 - Expires 10/5/2024

I was unable to get my next annual physical scheduled with my PCP close to 10/5/2024, so he completed a new CMEC last year with a 10/17/2023 date - which would be valid until 10/17/2028 (or 10/31/2028 if the FAA fixes the CMEC duration). I don't see any way to get the updated CMEC date to the FAA without taking the course again. But is it really necessary? I have all the required and valid documentation of my CMEC and Course completion. I don't see any requirement that the FAA needs the dates, so am I good waiting until 3/2025 to take the course, at which time the FAA will receive an update? Has anyone had any experience with this scenario/question?
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No. The proof of compliance is the actual CMEC and course completion certificate. That said, some folks (such as a potential employer if you're a CFI or FBO if you're a renter) might want to see the proper dates in the FAA website. If so, retaking the course is rather trivial. Also, if you got ramp checked by the FAA, the inspector might ask you to follow up with a copy of your signed CMEC if he or she couldn't verify the date online.
 
After you have completed the medical exam and your physician has signed off, you are required to complete either the AOPA or the Mayo Clinic BasicMed aeromedical course.

Once you complete the education course with a current medical exam, you can do the medical exam every day if you want. You can also do basic med and hold an FAA medical certificate.
 
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Clip4 said:
After you have completed the medical exam and your physician has signed off, you are required to complete either the AOPA or the Mayo Clinic BasicMed aeromedical course.

Once you complete the education course with a current medical exam, you can do the medical exam every day if you want. You can also do basic med and hold an FAA medical certificate.
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There's no specific sequence required by regulation, although as I noted above, if you do the course before you do the medical exam, the exam date won't show up in the FAA's records until the next time the course is completed. In both cases it's a look back-- 24 months for the course, and 48 months for the exam.
 
Brad Z said:
There's no specific sequence required by regulation, although as I noted above, if you do the course before you do the medical exam, the exam date won't show up in the FAA's records until the next time the course is completed. In both cases it's a look back-- 24 months for the course, and 48 months for the exam.
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I am posting the guidance given by the FAA. (AC68.1A). They say get the exam first.
 
Clip4 said:
I am posting the guidance given by the FAA. (AC68.1A). They say get the exam first.
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Yes, it says that for the reasons above. However, 61.23(c)(3)(i) makes no distinction in what sequence you do them. You just have to meet the look back requirements.
 
Brad Z said:
Yes, it says that for the reasons above. However, 61.23(c)(3)(i) makes no distinction in what sequence you do them. You just have to meet the look back requirements.
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A question: When I take the quiz, it asks for my CMEC date. I thought that was a required field. No?
 
midlifeflyer said:
A question: When I take the quiz, it asks for my CMEC date. I thought that was a required field. No?
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It is.

But you could enter the date of an exam that is about to expire or has already expired. The OP was asking about a situation in which he completed his two year course before he completed his four year exam. So when he submits the CMEC date for completing the course, he'll enter the date of the course from four years ago. When he finally gets his CMEC done, he'll enter that date the next time he takes the course, potentially two years from now.
 
And as for nuts and bolts, if you do the course first, there IS a period after (I think 30 days) in which you can come back and put in the signoff doc's information and print the certificate. But I'm not "current" on this.....
 
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