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Final Approach
So I went up with a local CFI today, first time in my airplane (or any plane, for that matter) since September 2015. It felt good, though a little unnerving. I did my first takeoff with zero flaps because I simply forgot to set them. And there are things about my panel that I've definitely forgotten - I have no idea how to enter a Direct-To flight plan from the database on the 480. When I hit the D-> button and then DB, I get a strange choice of #GAT vs USER to select from, and no way to change any of the characters in the name (I assume #GAT is a waypoint) to what I wanted. Must just be something I've forgotten, will have to look in Keith Thomassen's book. Other than that, practiced take offs and landings and steep turns. Next up: flight review, then some more VFR flying to re-familiarize myself with my panel, then some studying and an IPC.
The question: CFI and I talked about medical certification and BasicMed; I told him I'm flying under BasicMed now. He said he would like to do BasicMed but he can't because he needs a 2nd class medical. I asked him why, he said that he needs it because he flies for hire. Fair enough, except I don't think he does anything for hire in a plane anymore except instruct. He clearly said that he needs the 2nd class to do what he was doing at the time - instructing in a plane.
I know this is wrong, that all he has ever needed to instruct in a plane is a 3rd class. Moreover, I gather from some of the conversations here that he could do all of his instruction with BasicMed as long as he is qualified to act (and acting) as PIC at any time he is a required crewmember, e.g. while his trainee is under the hood. What I don't know is where to find authoritative documentation (on both of these points) that will convince him.
IIRC the point that you need only a 3rd class to instruct because the FAA considers you to be paid to teach, not to fly, is in a CC opinion somewhere rather than explicitly spelled out in a FAR. Can anyone point me to that opinion?
Also, is there anything that explicitly says that you can also instruct under BasicMed? I would have thought section 3.2 of AC 68-1 covers it, but the wording ("you can conduct any operation that you would otherwise be able to conduct using your pilot certificate and a 3rd class medical...") implies that you can be safety pilot as well, and we know that's not quite true - plus teaching requires a CFI rating as well, so it's not covered by the "pilot certificate" alone.
Any links or references would be appreciated.
The question: CFI and I talked about medical certification and BasicMed; I told him I'm flying under BasicMed now. He said he would like to do BasicMed but he can't because he needs a 2nd class medical. I asked him why, he said that he needs it because he flies for hire. Fair enough, except I don't think he does anything for hire in a plane anymore except instruct. He clearly said that he needs the 2nd class to do what he was doing at the time - instructing in a plane.
I know this is wrong, that all he has ever needed to instruct in a plane is a 3rd class. Moreover, I gather from some of the conversations here that he could do all of his instruction with BasicMed as long as he is qualified to act (and acting) as PIC at any time he is a required crewmember, e.g. while his trainee is under the hood. What I don't know is where to find authoritative documentation (on both of these points) that will convince him.
IIRC the point that you need only a 3rd class to instruct because the FAA considers you to be paid to teach, not to fly, is in a CC opinion somewhere rather than explicitly spelled out in a FAR. Can anyone point me to that opinion?
Also, is there anything that explicitly says that you can also instruct under BasicMed? I would have thought section 3.2 of AC 68-1 covers it, but the wording ("you can conduct any operation that you would otherwise be able to conduct using your pilot certificate and a 3rd class medical...") implies that you can be safety pilot as well, and we know that's not quite true - plus teaching requires a CFI rating as well, so it's not covered by the "pilot certificate" alone.
Any links or references would be appreciated.
