Automated PIREPS?

RingLaserGyroSandwich

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Certain weather-related information can be challenging to obtain for general aviation pilots. Cloud tops, icing conditions, and turbulence are generally reported verbally by pilots. I know ATC has rules and policies regarding soliciting PIREPS when weather information is needed, but good intelligence regarding PIREP-based weather conditions seems to be scarce overall.

Have there been any serious efforts to outfit airplanes (either small GA planes or airliners) with equipment that automatically measures visibility (or at least whether or not you are currently inside a cloud), presence of icing, and turbulence levels? The information could be transmitted to ground facilities for dissemination or possibly to other aircraft. An obvious way to do this would be to add the information to ADS-B Out data since as I understand it there is plenty of capacity for additional data in the information transmitted by airplane installations. The system would need a computer algorithm to cross reference GPS position and altitude with sensor readings to report them accurately. For example, rather than continuously broadcasting the air clarity measured, the computer can track the visibility as a function of altitude and time. Then, it can determine if a cloud layer was exited, and at what altitude. It would report that the estimated cloud tops are at flight level XXX. In theory, if your system reported something unexpected, ATC could ask you to verify verbally. Perhaps a master system would consolidate the data from multiple aircraft and reject outliers.

I wouldn't foresee such a setup as being mandatory for GA pilots any time soon, but it could be a good long-term goal for ADS-B out equipment to be integrated with reasonable sensors. Has this already been done? Is it a good idea? What would it really take?
 
Seems like a lot of work for no real benefit... And can you imagine trying to convince people to install it?
 
TAPS is a passive system that reports turbulence, wind, aircraft type, and temperature. A good number of airliners have it.

http://www.atr-usa.com/sub_pages/taps.html

There's also a system that uses the flight crew's iPads to report turbulence called Skypath.

https://skypath.app/

ACARS also allows crews to send PIREPS via a text fill-in form. You'll see a lot of these PIREPS in the system.
 
waaaaaaaaaaay too much money.
What do you think would drive the cost? The sensors and FAA certification? The integration to ADS-B Out equipment? The ground portion of this setup?
Seems like a lot of work for no real benefit... And can you imagine trying to convince people to install it?
Being able to avoid icing and turbulence, and knowing if you can avoid imc in general can be very valuable. Airliners already do some of this at the higher altitudes apparently, but data and overall efforts are much less sophisticated for us lower troposphere pilots.

If installing it entitled you to access the data, it might serve as a motivation, at least initially. If the government thought this was a useful initiative for safety or other reasons, it might foot the bill for a small amount of installation as well.

TAPS is a passive system that reports turbulence, wind, aircraft type, and temperature. A good number of airliners have it.

http://www.atr-usa.com/sub_pages/taps.html

There's also a system that uses the flight crew's iPads to report turbulence called Skypath.

https://skypath.app/

ACARS also allows crews to send PIREPS via a text fill-in form. You'll see a lot of these PIREPS in the system.
Thanks, this seems like a good sum up. It supports what I thought that there are some similar capabilities already out there, although certainly not quite what I described.
 
There's already AMDAR...
 
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