Are pilots um...different?

John Baker

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I think that there really is a difference between pilots and the general population as a whole, the most obvious being their sense of humor and love of engaging in it.

It takes a special type of person to want to take to the skies as the sole manipulator of the controls in an airoplane. I'm thinking it is probably from some sort of brain damage at birth, or perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children, thus, causing permanent damage to their brain circuitry.

-John
 
No I do not think we are really all that different. What connects us is our love of flying, and our conviction to the activity. I think we probably have a higher proportion of over achievers, type A personalities, and inflated egos than some activities and then the general public, but I think there are other activities that are worse than the flying population in terms of that.
 
I've noticed they tend to be more libertarian that the average Joe, which is good.
 
I think that there really is a difference between pilots and the general population as a whole, the most obvious being their sense of humor and love of engaging in it.

It takes a special type of person to want to take to the skies as the sole manipulator of the controls in an airoplane. I'm thinking it is probably from some sort of brain damage at birth, or perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children, thus, causing permanent damage to their brain circuitry.

-John

Hmmm... You may be onto something with that....
 
It's the lead, I tell ya. The more we fly the better it gets.
Look at the Jet-A airline and corporate guys - they don't have nearly as much fun as we do. Reason? No lead and the resulting brain damage.

Take Jay for example - very boring. Reason? Mogas. He's missing all the fun and has to come up with stupid things to do to keep himself entertained.
 
perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children, thus, causing permanent damage to their brain circuitry.

-John

I remember as a very young'un being very taken with the idea of electromagnets. Don't work too good 120v ac.

I think you're absolutely right, a big part of becoming a pilot is being curious by nature, and having the gumption to give it a shot, whatever "it" might be.
 
I'm thinking it is probably from some sort of brain damage at birth, or perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children
Yes.
Plus the lead paint chips. Mom said they were bad, but they tasted so good.
 
I've noticed they tend to be more libertarian that the average Joe, which is good.
I've noticed the opposite. The majority of pilots agonize over the minutia of regulations.
I see those as separate. As a group, pilots want to comply with the letter and spirit of the regs, and work hard to do so.

That doesn't mean they think most of the regs are smart, sane, required, or productive.
 
I'm thinking it is probably from some sort of brain damage at birth, or perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children, thus, causing permanent damage to their brain circuitry.

-John
Do tweezers count? If so I really did that at age 4 so you may be on to something.
 
I do not think we are much different than anyone who loves their sport, avocation, or vocation. Whether it is bicycling, motorcycling, boating, or flying, if you love it, you meet it with the same intensity.
The difference is in the risk level and what you do to mitigate that risk.
 
Hmmm... You may be onto something with that....
Indeed. According to my parents I managed to remove the socket end of an extension cord and with the other end plugged into a wall outlet proceeded to burn patterns in the metal tray of my high chair when I was about 3 years old. I don't actually recall doing that but I do remember seeing pictures of the marks and missing metal of the tray. Perhaps this is why high chairs are made of plastic these days?
 
Happened several years but illustrates the point about pilots and their families.

One evening a friend who’s a pilot came over for dinner with his new non-aviation-experienced girlfriend. They had a good time playing with our daughters through dinner. I think she may have put this evening together as a “kid test” for him.

Anyway, after dinner my wife goes to put the girls to bed and the other three of us make our way to the garage. The girlfriend had been feigning interest on some of the airplane talk so I was showing her the aeronca project that I was working on in the garage.

The conversation turned to my airplane just out of annual. He asked how much it cost, I told him $1700, he says yeah, that’s pretty darn good for a twin. The girlfriend is in shock, she asks me “It cost $1700 to get your yearly inspection sticker from the DMV for your plane ?!?” I tell her it’s not exactly the same thing but yes, that’s basically it. Then I remember and tell my friend that that didn’t include the tires, 3 new ones together added almost $500 with tubes. Probably only needed one but figured I’d just do em all. She’s got the “$500 for tires” shocked look on her face. She’s sure we’re aliens now.

Then I see the shoes on my workbench, and I remember that I have to finish those by Monday. They ask what I’m doing, so I explain that my daughters’ dance school changed the costumes for the recital and told everyone to get brown tap shoes instead of black.

I say heck, those brown shows are $40 a pair, I’m not paying $80 for shoes when I’ve already got these black ones. I’m gonna paint ‘em.

My buddy looks at them and says they’re pretty slick, I say yeah I need to put some zinser primer on first. He looks around my garage and offers that kilz seems to be more flexible, might be better for shoes. We open the kilz and start painting.

Then I notice the girlfriend, she’s backing away from us like you would from a coiled rattlesnake. Then she runs in the house, I can hear her telling my wife what we’re doing. I hear my wife ask which shoes we’re painting, she says “the girls’ black tap shoes!” and I hear my wife drop something and come running down the stairs. She sticks her head in the garage and says “those shoes are shiny, be sure to use some kilz first”
 
Well, we are different. Yesterday the bolt that secured the pulley to the drum of the dryer came loose for the second time. I took it out, drilled a hole in the head and safety-wired it after I reinstalled it.
 
I think I'm handsomer than the general public, although my 'nope, still single' status says differently.
 
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I see those as separate. As a group, pilots want to comply with the letter and spirit of the regs, and work hard to do so.

That doesn't mean they think most of the regs are smart, sane, required, or productive.

Libertarian as in they want a smaller amount of govt and a larger amount of freedom
 
Do tweezers count? If so I really did that at age 4 so you may be on to something.

I must have become destined to fly at age 2 with mom's car keys!:lol:

And yes I'm told I have that smart azz sense of humor.:stirpot:

George
 
I'm thinking it is probably from some sort of brain damage at birth, or perhaps from sticking metal eating utensils into electrical outlets as small children, thus, causing permanent damage to their brain circuitry.

-John

I didn't bother with metal eating utensils. I just stuck my finger in the socket - sometime around 3 or 4 years old.
 
Most pilots are male. This means most pilots were little boys at sometime in their life. Most little boys are curious and sticking things into holes to see what happens would seem natural curiosity, and I would suspect the vast majority of little boys have at one time or another done this. So it would not surprise me that most of us have done this in our childhood.

The observations are true and true, but the correlation is not there.
 
I'm very active in a couple of automotive communities too, specifically the new generation GTO and Corvette groups. They are basically the same, just talk about different stuff. Interest communities seem to produce the same time of camaraderie, but with varying opinions and levels. The Corvette forums are very very similar in beliefs and diversity as the pilot communities. The GTO folks tend to be a bit younger, but still quite diverse.

BTW, some of us come from pilot families. My first flight was at 3 months old, in the right seat of a Navajo (or maybe it was a 310, clearly I don't remember) as I accompanied my mom on freight runs.
 
Like less federal funds for airports and ATC services?

The air system in small potatoes in comparison to all the other govt bloat.

Most pilots I know follow the rules but would like a less of a nanny state, if that makes sense.
 
Lets see, we enjoy leaving the relative safety of terra firma in contraptions made of aluminum, wood, plastic, and fabric that are pulled through the air by motors with hundreds of moving parts that could stop suddenly if one of those parts decided it didn't want to play anymore. Yeah, I'd say we are different.
 
Lets see, we enjoy leaving the relative safety of terra firma in contraptions made of aluminum, wood, plastic, and fabric that are pulled through the air by motors with hundreds of moving parts that could stop suddenly if one of those parts decided it didn't want to play anymore. Yeah, I'd say we are different.
How different is that from the folks who think nothing of hurtling along with 130+ mph closure speed between them and oncoming traffic separated by nothing but a line painted on the driving surface?
 
They're different from each other, anyway. I can tell that just by reading this board. :D
 
Happened several years but illustrates the point about pilots and their families.

One evening a friend who’s a pilot came over for dinner with his new non-aviation-experienced girlfriend. They had a good time playing with our daughters through dinner. I think she may have put this evening together as a “kid test” for him.

Anyway, after dinner my wife goes to put the girls to bed and the other three of us make our way to the garage. The girlfriend had been feigning interest on some of the airplane talk so I was showing her the aeronca project that I was working on in the garage.

The conversation turned to my airplane just out of annual. He asked how much it cost, I told him $1700, he says yeah, that’s pretty darn good for a twin. The girlfriend is in shock, she asks me “It cost $1700 to get your yearly inspection sticker from the DMV for your plane ?!?” I tell her it’s not exactly the same thing but yes, that’s basically it. Then I remember and tell my friend that that didn’t include the tires, 3 new ones together added almost $500 with tubes. Probably only needed one but figured I’d just do em all. She’s got the “$500 for tires” shocked look on her face. She’s sure we’re aliens now.

Then I see the shoes on my workbench, and I remember that I have to finish those by Monday. They ask what I’m doing, so I explain that my daughters’ dance school changed the costumes for the recital and told everyone to get brown tap shoes instead of black.

I say heck, those brown shows are $40 a pair, I’m not paying $80 for shoes when I’ve already got these black ones. I’m gonna paint ‘em.

My buddy looks at them and says they’re pretty slick, I say yeah I need to put some zinser primer on first. He looks around my garage and offers that kilz seems to be more flexible, might be better for shoes. We open the kilz and start painting.

Then I notice the girlfriend, she’s backing away from us like you would from a coiled rattlesnake. Then she runs in the house, I can hear her telling my wife what we’re doing. I hear my wife ask which shoes we’re painting, she says “the girls’ black tap shoes!” and I hear my wife drop something and come running down the stairs. She sticks her head in the garage and says “those shoes are shiny, be sure to use some kilz first”


I get you…

All my friends made fun of me, because I would spend $500 on avgas to fly somewhere for lunch, but wouldn't spend more than $10 for my lunch.
 
BTW, some of us come from pilot families. My first flight was at 3 months old, in the right seat of a Navajo (or maybe it was a 310, clearly I don't remember) as I accompanied my mom on freight runs.


My twin brother and I came within about an hour of being born in the backseat of an airplane. my dad's business partner flew them to Phoenix from the small Podunk town they lived in, because the doctor there refused to deliver us as we were about 3 weeks premature.

To hear my mother tell it, there was some discussion between my dad and his partner about who was going to fly…

His partner had to tell him flat out that he was going to fly and my dad was going to sit in the backseat with my mother:D

Of the 4 of us, I am the only one of my brothers who went on to learn how to fly.

I came out of the womb wanting to fly an airplane… none of my 3 brothers even cared about them
 
I get you…

All my friends made fun of me, because I would spend $500 on avgas to fly somewhere for lunch, but wouldn't spend more than $10 for my lunch.
I don't see the problem. Being cheap WRT to the lunch menu means you have more left for avgas.:D
 
Like less federal funds for airports and ATC services?
I would be willing to pay substantially more for fuel tax and other reasonable fees to support aviation if the government didn't already tax me so heavily in other ways so that it can waste an obscene amount of money on really stupid stuff. Libertarianism is very compatable with general aviation.
 
Hmmm, at the age of just a few weeks Dad told Mom he was taking me ot the airport to meet the guys. She was thrilled with the idea of having time to take a long bath and paint her toenails.
Unfortunately, while at the airport the guys made a harness to hold me on Dad's lap while the group went flying. So there I was in an open cockpit Waco with a radial engine barking just a few feet my ears. Haven't been able to get that sound out of my head since. The only time it is quiet is when I go flying.
So, that's why I fly.
 
I've noticed the opposite. The majority of pilots agonize over the minutia of regulations.

Don't confuse Ron Levy with real-life pilots. :goofy::D
 
It's kind of creepy how many of us stuck metal things into outlets as children. Mine was a bobby pin. Maybe John is on to something here...?

I also put a blanket around my neck and jumped down a flight of stairs, convinced I could fly.

As for car gas keeping me lead-free (and thus needing to find stupid things to do), alas, I've been stuck burning that evil blue 100LL stuff since we moved to Texas in 2010.

I'm afraid I'm just as brain damaged as y'all are now. :D
 
As for car gas keeping me lead-free (and thus needing to find stupid things to do), alas, I've been stuck burning that evil blue 100LL stuff since we moved to Texas in 2010.

I'm afraid I'm just as brain damaged as y'all are now. :D
Well good! Now I'm personally less worried about you :D
 
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