AOPA

It keeps taking me to the login screen.

Edit: Just saw Greg's post. When I'm taking a site down for a while I try to put a message on the login screen. Not sure where he got that information; just wish they'd made it more prominent.
 
gprellwitz said:
It keeps taking me to the login screen.

Edit: Just saw Greg's post. When I'm taking a site down for a while I try to put a message on the login screen. Not sure where he got that information; just wish they'd made it more prominent.
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It is in small print at the very top of the page. :rofl:

And I erred. It is down til midnight eastern time. About another hour from this post.
 
i love how every time the red board goes down the first thing people do is come over here to post about it. :)

Uptime = good
 
FlyNE said:
i love how every time the red board goes down the first thing people do is come over here to post about it. :)

Uptime = good
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I agree. LOL

If you are going to complain about the red board here, don't complain that it is DOWN here. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Just kidding. I just find it ironic.
 
SCCutler said:
Meh. Who cares?
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I require the red board's own special brand of vitriol. It encourages me to be mild-mannered, lest I turn into a bridge troll like half of that board's population.

When they invent the device that allows you to strangle people on forums for a $100 fee, though, you'll find my house mortgaged, my planes on eBay, myself hiding in a coconut tree in south america, and the red board will resemble a WW1 army trench. Those threads make me so mad sometimes.

Shudder.
 
Tim said:
And just where would I have got a quicker answer smart guy!:mad2:
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Well, I wasn't trying to be smart, that wasn't really aimed at you. You are among many that post here when they have glitches in their systems.

That said, as Greg mentioned in this thread the downtime was posted on the page itself.
 
FlyNE said:
i love how every time the red board goes down the first thing people do is come over here to post about it. :)
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Some that don't do that here, go to the purple board to post that the red board is down. :wink2:
 
Diana said:
Some that don't do that here, go to the purple board to post that the red board is down. :wink2:
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:rofl::rofl:

It's funny, because I remember the same thing happening here when the purple board went down.
 
It's simple. When communications break down, we attempt alternate means of communications to determine the cause and extent of the problem. Seems reasonable to me! :)
 
FlyNE said:
:rofl::rofl:

It's funny, because I remember the same thing happening here when the purple board went down.
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People also went to the purple board when we went down. We don't go down often--but it happens--and it is generally Kenny's fault.
 
Yabut, I think it's interesting- ever since Jesse took over and implemented his Server Scheme, PoA is way more reliable than the multi-million-dollar-budget AOPA web board (and yes, I know the Red Board, itself, does not have that budget, but still, I'm just sayin'...).
 
SCCutler said:
Yabut, I think it's interesting- ever since Jesse took over and implemented his Server Scheme, PoA is way more reliable than the multi-million-dollar-budget AOPA web board (and yes, I know the Red Board, itself, does not have that budget, but still, I'm just sayin'...).
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Jesse has done a great job with the PoA servers. But I think this particular downtime with the red board was for regular maintence and not an unscheduled event.

One thing that has gotten much better on the AOPA site is their WX page. With the old provider there were often times that the WX products were not being upgraded and if you did not watch carefully you got one or two day old information. It was not a caching issue either. It was a failure to transfer data properly. With the new Jepp stuff they have not had this problem.
 
Why are people here so critical of AOPA? It seems to me there is way more crap thrown in the SZ, than all of AOPA.

In reality this board was created because AOPA shut down, and the purple boards were created because some folks couldn't comply with the new rules on the AOPA forums.

At least at AOPA you know you are talking to members that paid good money to be there, and are aviation people who have aviation opinions unlike here.
 
Tom-D said:
Why are people here so critical of AOPA?
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Tom, sometimes I wonder that too. It's different now, and there are good people over there and some very good discussions. Lots of give and take and learning and teaching going on, as well. Maybe some folks just haven't been over there in awhile.

It bothers me when one group feels like they are the best, and some even start to sound elitist and feel superior when bashing another place. I personally prefer the different boards at different times for different reasons. There are good people at all of them.

Lately, there have been times when there has been more hostility here than on the other boards. As I mentioned before, I would often prefer posting on other boards than here sometimes, and that is one of the reasons.

That's one of the nice things about getting together at our different fly-ins...stuff like that doesn't really matter when we get together in person.

Now, if we only had that "soapbox" smilie here (purple board has that one :P), or the "yap, yap, yap" smilie (red board has that one :P), cause I would probably need them. :D I'll just have to resort to this one....:crazy:
 
Tom-D said:
Why are people here so critical of AOPA? It seems to me there is way more crap thrown in the SZ, than all of AOPA.
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That's because AOPA doesn't allow anything non-aviation at all (unless they've changed since the last time I looked). I remember in particular that someone asked about bikes (to put in their AIRPLANE no less) and the thread was deleted or locked.

At least at AOPA you know you are talking to members that paid good money to be there, and are aviation people who have aviation opinions unlike here.
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Ummm... If you're referring to who I think you are, he is a student pilot.
 
Tom-D said:
Why are people here so critical of AOPA? It seems to me there is way more crap thrown in the SZ, than all of AOPA.
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There have been no jibes at AOPA, just questions about the Red Board's down-time.

SkilledRestorerOfBeautifulPlane said:
At least at AOPA you know you are talking to members that paid good money to be there, and are aviation people who have aviation opinions unlike here.
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Well... presumably, paid the money, but not always (viable) "aviation people."

Diana said:
Tom, sometimes I wonder that too. It's different now, and there are good people over there and some very good discussions. Lots of give and take and learning and teaching going on, as well. Maybe some folks just haven't been over there in awhile.

It bothers me when one group feels like they are the best, and some even start to sound elitist and feel superior when bashing another place. I personally prefer the different boards at different times for different reasons. There are good people at all of them.
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No "best" or "worst," and (other than the occasional blowhards, who are found everywhere), I don't think anyone here feels in any way "superior" to any others (well, except for the Mac users... :D ). Apples, oranges, pomegranates...

FlyingGoddess said:
Lately, there have been times when there has been more hostility here than on the other boards. As I mentioned before, I would often prefer posting on other boards than here sometimes, and that is one of the reasons.
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Diana, I honestly have no idea where you are deriving this perception, and it worries me. For any instance of hostility you can identify here, I could easily identify an equally-egregious offense at any other aviation board, of any color; I opt not to do so, because I do not seek controversy. Of greater consequence, and I think you know this, we self-police very well here, because we will not tolerate family attacking each other, and we are family here, because...

CitaBlueBerriaPilot said:
That's one of the nice things about getting together at our different fly-ins...stuff like that doesn't really matter when we get together in person.

Now, if we only had that "soapbox" smilie here (purple board has that one :P), or the "yap, yap, yap" smilie (red board has that one :P), cause I would probably need them. :D I'll just have to resort to this one....:crazy:
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...and like I said, we is fambly.

No one's "better," no one's "worse," just different. I don't have time in my life to cull through a half-dozen different aviation boards, and I find I have to sift through less chaff to get to the wheat here for general-purpose aviation stuff; there is a lot of value at PurpleWorld, too, with a notably whimsical spirit which I enjoy reading. AOPA is good for very limited (search-driven) stuff, because there is simply too much to wade through there- I have to sleep sometime!

Not better, not worse, just different.
 
Tom-D said:
At least at AOPA you know you are talking to members that paid good money to be there, and are aviation people who have aviation opinions unlike here.
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Well my first two words on that would be, Cowboy Pilot.

Let us not forget that he made most of his reputation on the red board. AOPA membership requirement did not seem to be able to stop his posts. It is hard to know what was true or not with him, I know he claimed at the end of Red Board Reign that he had been using an employ's AOPA number that he himself had paid for.

Tom didn't you yourself have some issues with people posting from your account at one time over there?

I was not around for that, and my memory may be mistaken, but I seem to recall some allegation about something related to posts coming from your account. I may be wrong though.
 
Tom-D said:
At least at AOPA you know you are talking to members that paid good money to be there, and are aviation people who have aviation opinions unlike here.
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Just to be clear: You can (or at least recently could) get a free six month "student" membership.

I would also suspect that there is no shortage of wana-be's and has-beens that have a AOPA membership for one reason or another. (I have a membership myself (at the moment)).
 
smigaldi said:
Well my first two words on that would be, Cowboy Pilot.

Let us not forget that he made most of his reputation on the red board. AOPA membership requirement did not seem to be able to stop his posts. It is hard to know what was true or not with him, I know he claimed at the end of Red Board Reign that he had been using an employ's AOPA number that he himself had paid for.

Tom didn't you yourself have some issues with people posting from your account at one time over there?

I didn't have any issues at all with my family members using my log in, or any one I allowed to use my computer.

I was not around for that, and my memory may be mistaken, but I seem to recall some allegation about something related to posts coming from your account. I may be wrong though.
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Nope you are not wrong, but those daya are gone, the forums are not as they were.

To set the record straight, My log in was an auto log in and all my family members used it, there was no rules at AOPA, forbiding it. but a few folks blew a fit over it. because they could not understand you never know who you are talking to on the internet, even now.

Those few had a real fit when I allowed a family member who was an active military Dr. serving in Iraq to use my log in so we could chat on the old EZ chat.. He also allowed his computer to be used by wounded service members in his ward to E-mail home. and a few logged into AOPA, WoW that really POed a bunch of hard core AOPA'ers.
 
smigaldi said:
Well my first two words on that would be, Cowboy Pilot. .
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And he finially got booted, if he is back he is on another loging and behaving himself. I really didn't follow that thread. simply because I didn't care
 
Tom-D said:
And he finially got booted, if he is back he is on another loging and behaving himself. I really didn't follow that thread. simply because I didn't care
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There is so much mystic with the whole Cowboy Pilot stuff that it is hard to discern fact form fiction.

But my point is that all the AOPA membership requirement means is that somebody forked over $39. There is no guarantee of quality.
 
Tom-D said:
Nope you are not wrong, but those daya are gone, the forums are not as they were.

To set the record straight, My log in was an auto log in and all my family members used it, there was no rules at AOPA, forbiding it. but a few folks blew a fit over it. because they could not understand you never know who you are talking to on the internet, even now.

Those few had a real fit when I allowed a family member who was an active military Dr. serving in Iraq to use my log in so we could chat on the old EZ chat.. He also allowed his computer to be used by wounded service members in his ward to E-mail home. and a few logged into AOPA, WoW that really POed a bunch of hard core AOPA'ers.
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Thanks for the background and I hope I have not opened any old wounds, but that is my point that AOPA logins could be shared, so you really are not always guarenteed to be talking to the dues payer. Nor does paying dues imply any sort of quality.
 
smigaldi said:
Thanks for the background and I hope I have not opened any old wounds, but that is my point that AOPA logins could be shared, so you really are not always guarenteed to be talking to the dues payer. Nor does paying dues imply any sort of quality.
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nothing has changed, you can share your log in with any one you choose. any where, any time, even here.

the AOPA forums have changed in many ways since the shut down and new program started.

and yes, Even I pick and choose which threads I view or post to.
 
smigaldi said:
There is so much mystic with the whole Cowboy Pilot stuff that it is hard to discern fact form fiction.

But my point is that all the AOPA membership requirement means is that somebody forked over $39. There is no guarantee of quality.
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The important thing to remember when you pay the membership dues, you are restricted to aviation topics. the Political BS is no longer allowed. that pretty much eliminates the users that are there to BS.

unlike here where there is no dues, and any one can BS about any subject.
 
Tom-D said:
The important thing to remember when you pay the membership dues, you are restricted to aviation topics. the Political BS is no longer allowed. that pretty much eliminates the users that are there to BS.
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More than just political talk cannot be discussed there. I seem to recall someone getting married and the thread congratulating him was deemed subversive to the good order of the AOPA. That is when my participation over there dropped off dramatically. It was after that occurrence that the bicycle problems started.
 
I think I had the most cutting attitude about the red board, even though it was half tongue in cheek. I should probably elaborate a bit.

I enjoy the red board. I enjoy about 95% of its denizens, and think there is a treasure trove of collective knowledge. Many times, the knowledge is even conveyed in a useful manner.

The other 5% conspire to make it something of a train wreck for me, and I can't stop watching. I'm referring to the personal and ignorant remarks, the non-constructive replies to posts seeking help, the rapidity with which ****ing matches start and devolve over there, users attacking each other, mods, the world at large, etc -- it's like my own little online jerry springer show sometimes.

I love it, but it's not pure love. And I have no sense of camaraderie over there, at all. Zero, none, nada. Not with me (I'm a bystander over there), but not amongst them either.

I blame nobody for this, and I don't think it should be fixed. In fact, I'm gonna head there next and watch the pedants dance. :D

Just my $0.02.
 
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