Ron, or someone else, please correct me if I am wrong, but not only can they not accept a penny, but they cannot not even accept monetary reimbursement.
Assuming you have a PPL and are not a student you can fly them wherever you or they want(assuming it is legal and possible), but you cannot get compensation from them for the flight.
Good luck going shopping in Pinedale.
Good luck going shopping in Pinedale.
Ok, that's a bit of an inside joke. I have been there too often. They do have a nice library and rec center and you could visit the Museum of the Mountain Man...
First, a penny is monetary reimbursement, albeit rather small. Second, I think you have too many not's in your sentence.
Add in the same day, and you've got the idea nailed.
No. That is not, in the FAA's eyes, "common purpose." It has to be a reason to go to that destination that day.
It's "common purpose," and the Chief Counsel specifically said in one of the interpretations that logging time doesn't fill the pilot's side of "common purpose." It must be a reason to go to that destination on that day.
It is, if someone else is paying for those hours (even in the slightest part) and getting a ride out of it, i.e., quid pro quo -- the passenger is getting a ride, and the pilot is getting free or reduced cost flying in return for providing that ride. That's only acceptable to the FAA if the pilot and passenger have a common purpose for the flight, i.e., same day, same destination.
You can log the time, but you can't accept anything from the passenger in return for the ride. It's the quid pro quo (transportation in return for compensation) which screws the pooch. If there's no compensation from the passenger, then there's no foul.
Bingo, with [words] added for clarity.
I think my nots are okay but anyhow what the statement meant to say it does not matter what the compensation is compensation whether it is monetary, on nonmonetary is not allowed.
What if it is a two day event or what if when you get to the airport you are traveling east by train to a different town with another airport and they are walking west to a the courthouse next to the airport. Just wondering for theorectical sake.
What I believed.
Huh? Why wouldn't there be a PIC on board the flight just because the pilot doesn't write it down afterwards?
Right -- there are many forms of nonmonetary compensation, and they are all prohibited other than pro rata expense sharing with common purpose.
The Chief Counsel has said each case will be reviewed on its own merits. But I think the general question is whether you made or changed your travel plans to accommodate the passenger. So, if you had the two day event and the passenger stayed over an extra day to ride home with you, I think that would be OK. OTOH, if you traveled a day earlier or a day later to accommodate your passenger's two day event, I think it would not. But that's purely guesswork, not any case I've read.
Only way to know for sure is to ask the FAA Chief Counsel. However, that scenario sounds like you're willing to go anywhere they want, and based on the letters on point, that might not be legal in the FAA's eyes if it came to their attention.
One should always write to the Chief Counsel before taking anyone flying anywhere.
If a tree falls in an empty forest with no webcam around, can the FAA hear it?
Well my employee just told me she was never subpoenaed. I think she's freaking out about the issue but I think the thread ended with the real answer. We keep our lips zipped.
Just wondering....if someone wants a car ride and offers to pay for the gas...but I wasn't really planning on going there....is this against some DOT regulation because taxis and buses have the commercial right to be doing that and not me?
Stupid rules.
