All about the Dreamliner
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masloki
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Read it and found it notable what the author left out given its length. 787 and Max are hurting each other, and causing cash to be burned fixing instead of developing. But no view into how things have gotten this bad. The issues of brain drain at corporate. Or the lack of aviation skilled workers in South Carolina. Or whether this plane manufactured in N countries really paid off in the long run (seems not given the quality control issues).
The 787 is a delight to ride in but between it and the Max may yet destroy Boeing.
The 787 is a delight to ride in but between it and the Max may yet destroy Boeing.
Kenny Phillips
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Certainly Boeing has gone the wrong way in the last few years. it's Starliner is years behind schedule, and other problems such as noted above have demonstrated the culture.
I don't want to see them disappear, but it would be better if they concentrated on fixing the products they have flying, and stopped begging for gov't bucks for products that are stalled.
*I called the one project Starliner MAX, with MCAS (Mission Cancelled Again, Sorry)
I don't want to see them disappear, but it would be better if they concentrated on fixing the products they have flying, and stopped begging for gov't bucks for products that are stalled.
*I called the one project Starliner MAX, with MCAS (Mission Cancelled Again, Sorry)
scarpozzi
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I flew on a Dreamliner for the first time last month. It was a 7.5 hour flight and was enjoyable. The original flight was supposed to be on a 777 and they moved to the lower-capacity 787. There were still a few empty rows, so with some smooth-talking to the flight attendants, I was able to move my family's seats and we got some extra seats in between us so we could stretch out and relax easier.
Meh.
On the one hand, one of the few articles about aviation to actually call the ramp the ramp, and not "the tarmac".
On the other hand, they spelled Scott Fancher's name wrong.
As for the substance of the article (and not the trivial crap) - article was ok for what was there, but light. As an old-head former Boeing guy, it sure feels like the company is in a slow-motion, decades long train wreck. One example: Back around 2000, it became clear that big swaths of upper management viewed engineering as a commodity - that an engineer was an engineer was an engineer. So you could swap work around the country without penalty. Doesn't work so well in real life. Takes a pretty long time for those chickens to come home to roost, though.
--Tony
On the one hand, one of the few articles about aviation to actually call the ramp the ramp, and not "the tarmac".
On the other hand, they spelled Scott Fancher's name wrong.
As for the substance of the article (and not the trivial crap) - article was ok for what was there, but light. As an old-head former Boeing guy, it sure feels like the company is in a slow-motion, decades long train wreck. One example: Back around 2000, it became clear that big swaths of upper management viewed engineering as a commodity - that an engineer was an engineer was an engineer. So you could swap work around the country without penalty. Doesn't work so well in real life. Takes a pretty long time for those chickens to come home to roost, though.
--Tony
Boeing has always begged for government bucks. This is what happens when executives with a hedge fund background pressure the people with the aerospace background to cut corners to save money and hurry up. You need both types in that industry but currently the former has too much control of the ship and will ultimately sink it if it's not corrected. Without a good product to sell, what happens? Of the 85 listed executives and officers, 5 have "engineer" in their title.
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