We still have one of those in our Arrow. Works good!Just came across this beauty today. Have not had the opportunity to play with it yet...
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I remember flying with one of those once but I don't remember which airplane. Weird how Narco pioneered this "all in one" design but King ended up producing so many KR-86 units which were nowhere as good.
Good Question. Yes they are signal strength meters. The normal procedure is to monitor the ID while navigating. If the ID goes away a missed approach is required, or if you are using it for en-route nav then you fall back to dead reckoning. Using the signal strength meter has two practical issues. First, one would need to add it to the scan. That is generally impractical unless you have an "all in one" box like that Narco above. Second you don't have anyway to tell if the meter failed or the NDB failed. Hence, listen to the ID.
We still have one of those in our Arrow. Works good!
Whichever the newest one is.the younger crowd will start a “which iPad was the GOAT”
I’m going to guess anyone posting on this thread is >60 years old, the younger crowd will start a “which iPad was the GOAT”
The same airplane also has one of these. Have to admit that I had to do some research on this one. Have not seen one before.
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Because Loran was originally created for ships, the best and highest use for this box is ... a boat anchor.
I have used Eskimo ADF but I ain't never heard of GOAT ADF before....
How do you use an Eskimo ADF? Follow the trail of clubbed seals?!
Good Question. Yes they are signal strength meters. The normal procedure is to monitor the ID while navigating. If the ID goes away a missed approach is required, or if you are using it for en-route nav then you fall back to dead reckoning. Using the signal strength meter has two practical issues. First, one would need to add it to the scan. That is generally impractical unless you have an "all in one" box like that Narco above. Second you don't have anyway to tell if the meter failed or the NDB failed. Hence, listen to the ID.
Use the GPS on your phone, of course.Are those signal strength meters on those?
If you're flying an ADF approach and the meter goes to zero, what's the move? Fly missed and get back up to an airway on the VOR?
Would love to know how to explain "bank error", if you happen to be able to do it. I've been unable to convince pilots of the need for reading the RBI while straight and level. They argue modern avionics don't have the error, but I'm not convinced of that. I could be wrong, dunno.Looks can be deceiving, these boxes got me home innumerable times in all types of weather.
I'm referring to this error: https://www.av8n.com/fly/adf-errors.htmI've not heard of bank error with regard to ADF used for NDB approaches or NDB navigation. However, I can imagine a situation where you have a gyro stabilized compass card, sort of a poor man's RMI where the card would be subject to precession errors the way a DG is. All the RMIs I used were slaved to the same source of magnetic information that drove the HSI. Note the vast majority of my NDB approaches were shot either with a fixed compass card or one that had to be rotated by hand which I could not be bothered to do. Easier to just keep the picture in your head and not bother with twiddling knobs.
I've wondered why such a database couldn't be used to calculate a position like GPS can. If it were possible to scan a number of stations simultaneously or in very short order an algorithm could deduce where you are within reasonable accuracy. Might not be good enough to shoot a bomb through a car window, but close enough to shoot an approach to a runway if GPS goes out.I love/loved ADF.
I had a database of the location of every AM radio station in the country. Turn on ADF and follow the music.
I'm referring to this error: https://www.av8n.com/fly/adf-errors.htm
I'd like to be able to explain it in a way that even I can understand it. This explanation doesn't cut the mustard.
I've wondered why such a database couldn't be used to calculate a position like GPS can. If it were possible to scan a number of stations simultaneously or in very short order an algorithm could deduce where you are within reasonable accuracy. Might not be good enough to shoot a bomb through a car window, but close enough to shoot an approach to a runway if GPS goes out.
not over 60....but North of 50..... but what do you folks mean by "GOAT"?I’m going to guess anyone posting on this thread is >60 years old, the younger crowd will start a “which iPad was the GOAT”
but what do you folks mean by "GOAT"?
What is an ADF?
Back when pilots were Pilots and magenta lines were brought to you by Crayola . . . need I go on?