Add another zero ethanol gas station to the list

Matthew

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The local QT closed a little while ago, the same day the new location opened up. I finally had a chance to get to the new place this morning. They have the normal regular/mid/high octane selections at the pumps. Two of the pumps also dispense diesel, but the other 10 or 12 have zero ethanol 87 octane.

E087, runs an extra 0.30/gal.
 
Where's this QT? I normally go to the one across the street from my office, but sometimes go to the one on 169 that's almost across from Tractor Supply. Haven't tried the new Phillips 66 that just opened up half a mile up 169 from the QT.
 
I generally use the same 2 QTs you do, on 151st and on 169 since I drive past both of them on a regular basis. The new QT is on Lackman at 101st. It replaced the 66 that was on that corner and the QT that was at 95th and Lackman.

Another QT just opened up on Parker and Old 56 highway, not too far from where you work, very close to Johhny's BBQ. And now I'm hungry. That QT opened sometime last month and it might be worth checking out to see if they have the E0 gas, too.
 
I've noticed a number of the "new" QTs around town have E0 at a few of the pumps. I believe the one at 103rd and Wornall does, as well as the one at Johnson Drive and 35. I know I've seen it at a few more, too.
 
QT has always had one or two places around town that sold E0 gas, but not that many. It looks like their new ones are going that route and should make it much easier to find.
 
I'm starting to see some pop up around here as well. There's a Shell station on my way home where the Plus grade gas was 60 cents more than regular, turns out it's ethanol free.

If you get near either of our lakes then E0 is downright common. Of course, every marina has it but it sells at a premium and it's pretty inconvenient if you're not in a boat.
 
labbadabba said:
Hy Vee gas around here usually has no ethanol pumps.
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I haven't stopped at any of the HyVee places. I *think* I know where one is, but I'm not sure.

A couple years ago the ethanol industry lost it's government subsidy. That raised ethanol prices per gallon by the same amount of the lost subsidy, so that ended up bleeding into a corresponding rise in prices at the fuel pump. I'm wondering now if the loss of that subsidy is causing a larger demand for pure gas and if that is why it's becoming more common?
 
All of Alaska is ethanol free gas, so why can't the rest of the country do the same?
 
Zeldman said:
All of Alaska is ethanol free gas, so why can't the rest of the country do the same?
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Because politicians are greedy a-holes and love accepting millions in bribes from the corn industry.
Remember, the government doesn't give much s**t about the constituents, unless they can milk 'em.
The days when the government was here for us are long gone. (this is true for many countries, not only this one)
 
Zeldman said:
All of Alaska is ethanol free gas, so why can't the rest of the country do the same?
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Wellletusjustseeherenow. Gasoline grows more or less naturally in Alaska and ethanol doesn't seem to grow there much at all...
 
Clark1961 said:
Wellletusjustseeherenow. Gasoline grows more or less naturally in Alaska and ethanol doesn't seem to grow there much at all...
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I would bet more ethanol goes into the residents than gasoline goes into vehicles in Alaska.....I know we sure did our part.....:lol:
 
Matthew said:
Where does the ethanol get added? At the distribution center?
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Its added in the manufacturing process, not just poured in after the gas is made. That way the alcohol can't be washed out with water.
 
Zeldman said:
Its added in the manufacturing process, not just poured in after the gas is made. That way the alcohol can't be washed out with water.
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Not at the refinery, is it? Wouldn't it be blended in somewhere else, downstream?
 
I love that areas outside of OK are getting to enjoy the QT brand. One of the few bright spots OK has to offer. Oddly enough, they don't compete in OKC.

Sheetz is a pretty good convenience store chain in the PA area, too, comparable to QT.

There's always been a decent number of E0 fuel stations in the Tulsa area, so when QT started incorporating it into their new store designs, it was a nice addition, but not something that was too hard to find elsewhere.


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Clark1961 said:
Wellletusjustseeherenow. Gasoline grows more or less naturally in Alaska and ethanol doesn't seem to grow there much at all...
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Continuing that line of reasoning, you'd think that gasoline here in Iowa, where ethanol comes from, would never be available without the corn juice. But strangely enough straight gasoline is offered here by many gas stations, maybe even most of them.

It's so readily available that when the local aeroclub wants its mogas tank refilled, they phone a jobber who shows up the next day with a fuel truck full of no-ethanol gasoline.
 
NoHeat said:
Continuing that line of reasoning, you'd think that gasoline here in Iowa, where ethanol comes from, would never be available without the corn juice. But strangely enough straight gasoline is offered here by many gas stations, maybe even most of them.

It's so readily available that when the local aeroclub wants its mogas tank refilled, they phone a jobber who shows up the next day with a fuel truck full of no-ethanol gasoline.
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Of course those rich pilots can import the gasoline from the gasoline growing states. Duh!
 
Matthew said:
QT has been around here for a long time. The E0 is new, though.
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Right, but they've established a pretty good presence in SC, AZ, GA, MO, TX, and CO over the past decade. They're also on the Fortunes Top 100 places to work every year, too.


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I don't know about and QT but in Utah the Mavericks (local brand) have been putting ethanol free pumps in some of their new stations. I live it because my '66 Cadillac hates that crap and I used to have to drive 20 miles (4 dinosaurs) to find any.
 
SoonerAviator said:
Right, but they've established a pretty good presence in SC, AZ, GA, MO, TX, and CO over the past decade.
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Strange, not in "our TX". It might be "your TX" :), as in "the border with OK". I have never seen a QT station anywhere in TX.
Maybe somebody from far-north TX can chime in here?

I would love to put pure gasoline in my vehicles but they don't sell it here. And if they do, not sure whether people will pay more for cheaper E0 gasoline. *shrug*
 
BigBadLou said:
Strange, not in "our TX". It might be "your TX" :), as in "the border with OK". I have never seen a QT station anywhere in TX.
Maybe somebody from far-north TX can chime in here?

I would love to put pure gasoline in my vehicles but they don't sell it here. And if they do, not sure whether people will pay more for cheaper E0 gasoline. *shrug*
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IIRC, QuikTrip is one of the Koch's enterprises so I think it's more prevalent in KS and OK. I will say tho, as far as convenience stores go, they do it right. They pay their associates well and have good local management. The offer free tire air and their facilities are usually very clean.
 
labbadabba said:
IIRC, QuikTrip is one of the Koch's enterprises so I think it's more prevalent in KS and OK. I will say tho, as far as convenience stores go, they do it right. They pay their associates well and have good local management. The offer free tire air and their facilities are usually very clean.
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QuikTrip is a family-owned private company based out of Tulsa,OK, no affiliation with Koch industries.
 
Matthew said:
E087, runs an extra 0.30/gal.
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The most expensive station in town here now sells no ethanol. Regular is 6 cents or more higher than the rest; no ethanol is another 86 cents per gallon. That makes it 50 cents cheaper than avgas . . .
 
Matthew said:
Not at the refinery, is it? Wouldn't it be blended in somewhere else, downstream?
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Not at the refinery. Gasoline and other refined fuels that enter a common pipeline are fungible products; that means that ExxonMobil, Citgo, Valero, and other refiners meet a minimum spec and they all put their product in a pipeline with everyone else's fuel. Each company then pulls out the mixed fuel along the pipeline, then they can add whatever they want to it and distribute it from there. So your Citgo gasoline could have been refined at Shell (it's a mix).
 
Hank S said:
The most expensive station in town here now sells no ethanol. Regular is 6 cents or more higher than the rest; no ethanol is another 86 cents per gallon. That makes it 50 cents cheaper than avgas . . .
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I find that .30 is roughly the B-E point for my truck for running E0 vs E10. I get better mileage running E0, but it's only about 1mpg, so if the price goes higher than .30/gal over E10, I don't buy E0. I always run E0 in the boats/jet ski/lawn equipment.


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Update: Stopped there again yesterday, E0 87 is about +0.35 over the E10 87. Our options are 87, 89, 91 octane.
 
Good for y'all. I hope real gasoline will continue to make a comeback. I feel lucky to have always had pure gas available nearby.
 
I just rolled into this thread and I gotta tell ya, I'm fuming!
 
DutchRoller said:
Do any of you use this site to find E0?
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I checked it out a couple years ago. Went to several stations in Norcal - all were incorrect. Last I checked there was only one distributor way up on the north coast that really did have it. They still seem to be listed. The others were removed back then.
Moral is - call ahead and don't hold your breath. The site is voluntarily reported I believe.
Hoping this administration dumps the disgusting ethanol nonsense. Been a joke for the benefit of special interests all along, provides lesser quality of fuel and drove up the price of anything reliant on corn feed. But there are going to be those that whine for the other side....just wait for it.....
 
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Hoping this administration dumps the disgusting ethanol nonsense. Been a joke for the benefit of special interezts all along, provides lesser quality of fuel and drove up the price of anything reliant on corn feed. But there are going to be those that whine for the other side....just wait for it.....
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Wholeheartedly agree.
 
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