A Plane Crash I don't Get...

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Folks, from the Management council - lay off the comments that can be construed as personal attacks. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but you gotta express it in a way that doesn't become a personal insult or attack.

There's enough valuable information in this thread that we'd like to keep it open - personal insults just detract from the value.

'nough said.
 
tonycondon said:
to each his own.

Jesse is one of the few pilots with which I would sleep in the back while he flew.
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Close, Jesse is one of the few pilots in which I would NEED to be asleep when he flew. :rofl:

Seriously though, I'd toss him the keys to my plane anyday, if I have a plane again.
 
Best idea of all-

Jim, come to the Gaston's Fly-In in June (www.gastonsflyin.com), and meet Jesse for yourself. He's a good stick and a good guy (but don't tell him I said so).

Plus, you'll have so much fun, you'll be vibrating for a week.

See you there?

/s/ Spike
 
lancefisher said:
Henning, I agree with most of what you are saying here but you're confusing stupidity with ignorance. The fact that the pilot had the knowledge that this was a bad idea means he wasn't ignorant, but since he went ahead anyway is consistent with stupidity.
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I understand the difference, I still don't buy "stupid", stupid in this regards means a mistake, a slip of mind that should have been caught. I don't believe that was the case, I believe this was completely willful and calculated.
 
Henning said:
What I'm saying is that stupidity and ignorance had nothing to do with this. When he flew the plane overgross, it became an issue of willful disregard. Even if the reasoning would be "I though it would be ok, so I didn't calculate it" by a person holding an ATP, that fact alone would make it willfull disregard because he has been tested on this subject and has proven that he knows the correct proceedure. There are NO mitigating circumstances on this one. Once the fuel records and weight of the passengers became known information, the illegality of the flight was established, and with it the establishment of gross negligence.
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YES! :yes::yes::yes:

I don't even have access to a 172 POH and I knew that the load he was carrying was excessive!!!!

Forget his stick skills for a minute. Anyone who is that close to the envelope should have a VERY DAMN good idea of where outside the envelope they are flying, and how to operate given that knowledge. This person, from appearances and results, did not. Negligent, derelict, murderous - you decide.

Stupid is as stupid does.
 
flyersfan31 said:
YES! :yes::yes::yes:

I don't even have access to a 172 POH and I knew that the load he was carrying was excessive!!!!

Forget his stick skills for a minute. Anyone who is that close to the envelope should have a VERY DAMN good idea of where outside the envelope they are flying, and how to operate given that knowledge. This person, from appearances and results, did not. Negligent, derelict, murderous - you decide.

Stupid is as stupid does.
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"Don't call me STUPID!" - Otto, :D
 
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