A day as a pilot

wsuffa said:
True, but the US has had its share, too.

Chrysler was an example. The L-1011 had US Govt guarantees to Lockheed, subsidizing the production.....
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If memory serves, Chrysler paid the loans back a lot faster than they had to. Iacocca still brags about that, as he should. I don't know about Lockheed. But I get your point, we are not immune to socialism here, its just less prevalent. More recently, our airline industry got a nice gov't boost after 9/11. WRT transportation, a little latitude is needed for national security and overall economy. That's why there is a need for some gov't reg and intervention.
 
Henning said:
DAY IN THE LIFE OF AN AERIAL APPLICATOR
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Ahhhh.... Memories...... in the corner of my mind......

Same here -- don't miss that 4am crap though. Especially when I have to have the nurse rig on the other side of the state by daybreak so I'm ready to go when the plane & pilot arrive. Then load the plane with its final load of the day just as the sun is setting which means the return trip back to home base will be just as dark as the first trip of the day. Makes for some LOOOOONG days - but most of the year, you spend HOPING that you are able to get those LOOOONG days so you can pay the bills. *sigh*

-Chris
 
Bill Jennings said:
Yeah, those chemicals are real safe, yeah.

:D
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I don't think it was the Ag chemicals.... He had some neat gear though. Some really hot sniper type equipment many with Gen III night vision scopes. He had one rifle & scope I'd estimate around $10,000+, and he had 8 that I saw. He was dead serious.
 
Anthony said:
If memory serves, Chrysler paid the loans back a lot faster than they had to.
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Only because the Army chose the M-1 tank over the GM M-60 which as a tank was a better unit. They picked it to guarantee the sucess of Chrysler.
 
Henning said:
I don't think it was the Ag chemicals.... He had some neat gear though. Some really hot sniper type equipment many with Gen III night vision scopes. He had one rifle & scope I'd estimate around $10,000+, and he had 8 that I saw. He was dead serious.
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Part of the reason those types are serious whether conciously or only subconciously, and can afford to be, is the serious sponsorship available to cover a prime time TV show documenting their efforts with motion activated and hand held infrared camera recorders, etc. That is what the public really wants to see, coyotes, rabbits, bats ...I mean Bigfoot!
 
Dave Krall CFII said:
Part of the reason those types are serious whether conciously or only subconciously, and can afford to be, is the serious sponsorship available to cover a prime time TV show documenting their efforts with motion activated and hand held infrared camera recorders, etc. That is what the public really wants to see, coyotes, rabbits, bats ...I mean Bigfoot!
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No, there's several million dollar bounties on bringing in a Bigfoot. From what he was showing me, it would pay around $4.5mil to bring one down. None of it was from TV.
 
You know, this thread has gotten seriously idiotic. This guy doesn't have a clue, the theme is dumb, and he doesn't seem to understand anything. Let's drop it. Greg, I appreciate that you tried to help this guy -- he is incapable of understanding your responses.
 
Henning said:
No, there's several million dollar bounties on bringing in a Bigfoot. From what he was showing me, it would pay around $4.5mil to bring one down. None of it was from TV.
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TV's unique and popular type of sponsorship is just the part I happened to see while channel surfing. It was one of the most boring shows that I've ever seen parts of. In the highly unlikely event someone brings in a Bigfoot, of course they'd be set for life in public appearances, guided future hunts, various other sponsorships, etc. A well designed hoax in the form of even a small sample of genetically manipulated tissues "captured and killed from the wilds" between humans and any of the larger, higher primates like gorrilas would be far more likely to reap significant financial rewards from the public.
 
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CJones said:
Ahhhh.... Memories...... in the corner of my mind......

Same here -- don't miss that 4am crap though. Especially when I have to have the nurse rig on the other side of the state by daybreak so I'm ready to go when the plane & pilot arrive. Then load the plane with its final load of the day just as the sun is setting which means the return trip back to home base will be just as dark as the first trip of the day. Makes for some LOOOOONG days - but most of the year, you spend HOPING that you are able to get those LOOOONG days so you can pay the bills. *sigh*

-Chris
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I can remember more than once leaving the rig at the out station and flying the loader home in the hopper and waking him when we got back. Hard to imagine sleeping in there.
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
Ok thanks. Maybe I feel more inclined to Airbus because I have been very involved in the A380!!! By the way the i knew that the APU is a smaller engine. I did my internship at MTU Aeroengines Maintanence in Ludwigsfeld, Berlin, Germany.
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Now hang on, IIRC the prakticum in Germany is 6 weeks, how involved could you get? How involved would they even let you get?
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
My last questions still have not been answered!
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Whoa! Attitude check, friend. You come flying along out of nowhere because you want help on a paper and you're not sure how to find the oodles of articles and books on the day to day life of an airline pilot. These people are good enough to try to help you out, even though your questions are a bit silly and it seems like you're trying to get them to do your homework for you. However, these kind folks think that education is important and are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Then when they don't answer you fast enough you whine about it.

A ten year old with a library card and a passing knowledge of google could find many detailed articles and books about flying airliners. Once you've put in some effort, why don't you come back with some specific questions you weren't able to find answers to. For example, "Joe Blow said in his article about airline seniority that the system is a serious problem in today's changing marketplace because of X, Y and Z. Can you guys comment on that?" That way we'll know you've put in a bit of effort.
 
Henning said:
Now hang on, IIRC the prakticum in Germany is 6 weeks, how involved could you get? How involved would they even let you get?
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I got pretty involved. MTU plays a big role with the A380 Trent 900 engines.
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
I got pretty involved. MTU plays a big role with the A380 Trent 900 engines.
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I understand quite well how involved MTU is, however in a 6 week prakticum with MTU, you involvement is less than minimal with MTU much less the A-380.
 
Henning said:
I can remember more than once leaving the rig at the out station and flying the loader home in the hopper and waking him when we got back. Hard to imagine sleeping in there.
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That's a little TOO comfortable with the chemicals if you ask me. I've opened those hoppers after they've been sitting in the sun for half a day -- the smell alone nearly knocks you off the wing! 95%+ of the work we did was insecticides, so the residue left in there really wasn't the 'ahhh.. just wash it off' type of thing. Those dudes must REALLY hate to drive to be willing to ride in the HOPPER to keep from driving home. yikes! Of course, I've heard stories about guys using their bare hands to stir loads of Lorsban before pumping it into the plane, so I guess there are some dummies out there. ha!

-Chris
 
CJones said:
That's a little TOO comfortable with the chemicals if you ask me. I've opened those hoppers after they've been sitting in the sun for half a day -- the smell alone nearly knocks you off the wing! 95%+ of the work we did was insecticides, so the residue left in there really wasn't the 'ahhh.. just wash it off' type of thing. Those dudes must REALLY hate to drive to be willing to ride in the HOPPER to keep from driving home. yikes! Of course, I've heard stories about guys using their bare hands to stir loads of Lorsban before pumping it into the plane, so I guess there are some dummies out there. ha!

-Chris
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Nahh, we give it a real good wash out before I let him ride in there. A little Lorsban wouldn't phase this guy if you know what I mean;) I think he was pretty saturated recreationally.
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
I got pretty involved. MTU plays a big role with the A380 Trent 900 engines.
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Yeah I am sure they a lot of college freshman get pretty involved.

You know there are people on this board that have been working in high tech for more years than you have probably been alive and your repsonse is pretty flipant. Some of us even have real inventions and technical contribution to our names that you are using right now.
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
hey I am not here to argue! I have to get my paper done!!
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Well, heck, send us what you have and we'll finish it for you!
 
Bill Jennings said:
Who we, quimosabe?
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Quimosabe? Is that Tonto's African American brother? :rofl: Kind of like Quase Infume?

We meaning YOU!
 
jangell said:
...You've got to be kidding me..
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You aren't a freshman in Aerospace Engineering? Dont have homework to do? Why not!?

BTW Steven, welcome to Pilots of America. Im pretty sure you are setting the record for the most replied to first post, good work!

Since you are working on an AerE degree, any plans to learn to fly? What are you hoping to do with it? I am getting an AerE degree from Iowa State with the sole goal of being a glider bum the rest of my life! But I suppose if money starts to get tight I may look into getting into flight test work, that sounds interesting. If you are interested in learning how to fly, start now! bump those student loans up a few more thousand a semester and you'll be a CFI by the time you graduate.
 
tonycondon said:
You aren't a freshman in Aerospace Engineering? Dont have homework to do? Why not!?
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$$$$$
 
tonycondon said:
You aren't a freshman in Aerospace Engineering? Dont have homework to do? Why not!?

BTW Steven, welcome to Pilots of America. Im pretty sure you are setting the record for the most replied to first post, good work!

Since you are working on an AerE degree, any plans to learn to fly? What are you hoping to do with it? I am getting an AerE degree from Iowa State with the sole goal of being a glider bum the rest of my life! But I suppose if money starts to get tight I may look into getting into flight test work, that sounds interesting. If you are interested in learning how to fly, start now! bump those student loans up a few more thousand a semester and you'll be a CFI by the time you graduate.
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I do want to get my pilots licence in two years. Do you know a good place to go? I am planning on going to either Florida Tech or Embry Riddle! What you think of those schools?
 
If you already have a degree, why hit up a college for a PPL? Go to an FBO or something, you'll save money. You're already gonna have your degree.

And the APUs on Skyhawks are easier to operate when you operate from an FBO. You have more control.
 
i thought you were at penn state in AerE? Just go to a local FBO at your friendly neighborhood airport and actually learn to fly, rather than going to ER and become an airplane driver.
 
tonycondon said:
i thought you were at penn state in AerE? Just go to a local FBO at your friendly neighborhood airport and actually learn to fly, rather than going to ER and become an airplane driver.
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Actually I want to get my pilots licence as a hobby. I do not want to go into comercial piloting. Probably I would not pass my medical. I want to work for a big aerospace company. I also want to study management further down the road!
 
Greg Bockelman said:
Airbus more than Boeing, at this point.
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Lokks like Airbus is gonna lose most of their 380 contracts over this last set of delays as well.
 
stevenmeyer2005 said:
I do want to get my pilots licence in two years. Do you know a good place to go? I am planning on going to either Florida Tech or Embry Riddle! What you think of those schools?
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: sniff..... oh man, that's a good one, test pilots license... Yeah, Embry Riddle....
 
i think yer confused, im the one who wants to be a test pilot.
steven if you are just looking to become a private pilot then the local fbo is definitely your best bet. you ill learn a lot about the stuff you want to eventually work on by getting a job pumping gas and hanging around at the airport and it will also help finance lessons.
 
tonycondon said:
i thought you were at penn state in AerE? Just go to a local FBO at your friendly neighborhood airport and actually learn to fly, rather than going to ER and become an airplane driver.
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Agreed, head to the local FBO.

I can tell you from experience that being a pilot will make you a much better aircraft design engineer. I'm sometimes amazed at some of the silly ideas and gaps in knowledge the non-pilot engineers I work with have, even after decades in the business.

Chris
 
tonycondon said:
i think yer confused, im the one who wants to be a test pilot.
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Me too. I've managed to get on one test flight for work so far. We were testing a ferry fuel system in a Cessna 421B. I even got to log 1.6 hours of dual multi time and get paid for it at the same time.

Are you planning on pursuing test piloting as a career? What steps do you plan to take? I was planning on coming at it from the engineering side first, then trying to get into the pilot's seat once I'm well established in the company and have my hours up.

Do we have anybody on the board with test piloting experience?

Chris
 
cwyckham said:
Me too. I've managed to get on one test flight for work so far. We were testing a ferry fuel system in a Cessna 421B. I even got to log 1.6 hours of dual multi time and get paid for it at the same time.

Are you planning on pursuing test piloting as a career? What steps do you plan to take? I was planning on coming at it from the engineering side first, then trying to get into the pilot's seat once I'm well established in the company and have my hours up.

Do we have anybody on the board with test piloting experience?

Chris
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yea id like to get into some sort of test flying. I really dont have a plan yet. Pretty much what you say though, attack it from the engineering side and get into the pilots seat eventually. Im doing a good job at building time so far. Ive even entertained the idea of getting into production test to start off with. I know Cessna was hiring production test pilots a couple years ago. wanted something like 1200 hrs 500 dual given, CFII and an aerospace related degree.
 
tonycondon said:
yea id like to get into some sort of test flying. I really dont have a plan yet. Pretty much what you say though, attack it from the engineering side and get into the pilots seat eventually. Im doing a good job at building time so far. Ive even entertained the idea of getting into production test to start off with. I know Cessna was hiring production test pilots a couple years ago. wanted something like 1200 hrs 500 dual given, CFII and an aerospace related degree.
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I'm actually surprised their hour requirement is that low. Are you planning on getting into design engineering once you're done your degree, or do you want to fly commercially for a while?
 
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